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  Sex Abuse? Not only the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Nassau in

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  there are plenty of scandals inside our "holy" religions around the world.

  check today's news from usa:.

  http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/04/national/04bost.html?todaysheadlines.

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  Nassau

  There are plenty of scandals inside our "holy" religions around the world. Check today's news from USA:
  http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/04/national/04BOST.html?todaysheadlines

  Edited by - Nassau on 4 October 2002 6:13:21
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  more excuses, other than libary card?

  by lulu in

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  i have heard that the wt are offering other excuses other than wanting a libary czard.

  does anyone know of any, and where if so can i get the information.

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  Nassau

  Here is the article that was published by the newspaper "PUBLICO" on the 20 October, 2001, from the journalist Antnio Marujo:

  Testemunhas de Jeova Ligaram-se "Besta" Por ANTONIO MARUJO Sabado, 20 de Outubro de 2001

  Inscricao na ONU fez polemica

  Grupo religioso teve de abandonar registo na ONU, que identifica como a "coisa repugnante" do Apocalipse

  As Testemunhas de Jeova (TJ) estiveram inscritas durante quase 10 anos num registo das organizacoes nao-governamentais que trabalham com a ONU, instituicao que as TJ identificam como "a coisa repugnante" e a "besta escarlate" referida no livro biblico do Apocalipse (ou "Revelacao", na linguagem das testemunhas. O facto, mantido em segredo durante este tempo, so foi conhecido ha cerca de dois meses, motivando uma volumosa correspondencia dirigida a ONU e aos responsaveis das TJ por parte de muitos membros das Testemunhas de Jeova, estranhando o que alguns consideravam hipocrisia. Na sequencia desse movimento, aquele grupo religioso solicitou a desvinculaco do registo, decisao deferida pela ONU no passado dia 9.

  O pedido de inscricao foi feito, ainda em 1991, pela Sociedade Torre de Vigia de Biblias e Tratados (STVBT), o orgao dirigente dos cerca de seis milhes de Testemunhas de Jeova a nivel mundial. Em 1992, o Departamento de Informacao Publica (DPI) das Nacioes Unidas aceitou a inscricao da Torre de Vigia no registo de organizacoes nao-governamentais (ONG), na area da defesa dos direitos humanos. O departamento da ONU desconhecia, no entanto, que em algumas das publicacoes da propria STVBT as Nacoes Unidas eram permanentemente identificadas como a "besta escarlate" e a "coisa repugnante" do livro biblico do Apocalipse.

  Em Agosto, o registo foi conhecido publicamente. Esse facto deu origem a um movimento intenso de pedidos de esclarecimento. Em cartas, telefonemas e mensagens electronicas, muitos membros das TJ dirigiam-se ao DPI das Nacoes Unidas e a propria STVBT, querendo saber o que se passava.

  No dia 8 deste mes (vespera da decisao de anulacao do registo no DPI), um ex-membro das TJ citado pelo jornal ingles "The Guardian", dizia: "Ha uma manifesta inconsistencia entre a descricao que a STVBT faz frequentemente da ONU como uma organizacao iniqua e as suas [da Torre de Vigia] tentativas nos bastidores para obter os favores" das Nacoes Unidas.

  "O registo como Organizaco Nao Governamental so foi feito por causa de poder dar ajuda humanitaria e defender os direitos humanos em diversos paises do mundo", diz ao PUBLICO Pedro Candeias, porta-voz da Associacao das Testemunhas de Jeova em Portugal. Em Portugal, no entanto, a desvinculacao do registo ainda nao conhecida oficialmente pela ATJ, que representa perto de 50 mil crentes.

  Este responsvel diz que o grupo religioso a que pertence tem tido "um papel importante" na ajuda a populacoes de paises como Angola, Bosnia, Georgia, Ruanda e outros africanos ou latino-americanos. "Chegar a esses paises era complicado e, por isso, foi necessario inscrever" a STVBT nas Nacoes Unidas. Mas essa inscricao, afirma, nao comprometia as Testemunhas de Jeova com "qualquer envolvimento politico" com a ONU.

  Este grupo religioso, recorde-se, afirma-se neutral em termos politicos. Mas, ao mesmo tempo, mantem uma atitude de respeito, quase submisso, para com as autoridades de cada pais. Pedro Candeias explica que os TJ pagam os seus impostos mas nao vao, depois, perguntar ao Estado o que se faz com esse dinheiro.

  "Nao se trata de uma jogada politica", diz o porta-voz da ATJ, "porque sem o aval da ONU nao seria possivel distribuir ajuda humanitaria". E como a inscricao "nao violava os preceitos estatutarios" das TJ, as criticas ao registo no DPI "nao tem qualquer fundamento", diz Pedro Candeias.

  Certo e que numa informaco assinada por Paul Hoeffel, chefe da seccao das ONG no DPI das Nacoes Unidas, datada de dia 11, diz-se que aquele organismo vinha recebendo mensagens "numerosas" pedindo informacoes sobre a associacao da Torre de Vigia lista de ONG que trabalham junto das Nacoes Unidas. A STVBT, acrescenta o documento, "pediu para ser associada ao DPI em 1991, o que foi concedido em 1992". Ao associar-se, qualquer organizacao se compromete a respeitar os principios da Carta das Nacoes Unidas e a informar os destinatarios sobre as actividades da ONU.

  "Em Outubro de 2001", acrescenta Paul Hoeffel, a Torre de Vigia "requereu o fim da sua associacao com o DPI". Depois disso, o departamento da ONU "tomou a decisao de dissociar" a Sociedade Torre de Vigia, o que teve efeito a partir do dia 9 de Outubro.

  jornal.publico.pt/2001/10/20/Sociedade/s05.html

  Edited by - Nassau on 4 October 2002 5:55:47

  Edited by - Nassau on 4 October 2002 6:6:38
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  more excuses, other than libary card?

  by lulu in

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  i have heard that the wt are offering other excuses other than wanting a libary czard.

  does anyone know of any, and where if so can i get the information.

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  Nassau

  Here it is! If you need more help, just ask, please.

  Edited by - Nassau on 4 October 2002 5:36:21

  Edited by - Nassau on 4 October 2002 5:38:45
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  OFFICIAL SITE OF DEVIL

  by Nassau in

  1. social
  2. humour

  anyone here knows where devil has his own official site (i mean a direct one, not the

  http://www.watchtower.org /

  edited by - nassau on 30 september 2002 12:34:48.

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  Anyone here knows where devil has his own official site (I mean a direct one, not the http://www.watchtower.org/ )?

  Edited by - Nassau on 30 September 2002 12:34:48
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  WT. Pays $30,000 Pollution Fine

  by JWrobot in

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  I know that they use do a lot of dirty things, yeah... but can anybody tell me what or how they pollute?

  Thanks.

  Nassau
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  Very Bad News Re: Post Yesterday

  by Celtic in

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  i'm not sure how to put this news gently to the community here, but regarding my post yesterday regarding chantelle.. thankyou for all of your kind messages and warmth displayed on your parts.. chantelle was only 16 when disfellowshipped.

  only 18 years old with her whole life in front of her.

  she took her own life this morning at 0400hrs.. i am so sorry not to have been in a better position to get your letters to her in time.. take care all of you & kindest regards.

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  Nassau

  Life is so short...why this! I am very sorry to hear about this news!

  My Deepest sympathy to Adele!
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  Occult symbol in the WTS literature?

  by Nordic in

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  here is a link .

  www.bigwig.net/knots/nightmares/occult.htm try it.

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  Of course I do not believe in this kind of fiction! I am not wasting my time trying to see devilish hidden symbols in the WT Magazine. Your research reminds me the Catholic Inquisition History procedure, when the Roman Church was trying to condemn those accused of witchery they wanted to see witchcraft everywhere, from anybody only to justify their job, the accusations. Everybody, without exception, could be suspect of witchery, if was not actively practicing the Roman Apostolic Catholic Church. Occult symbols in someones literature could be the main subject of accusation on one of those religious trials or ecclesiastical tribunals!

  Read this: Such, for example, were the nocturnal riding through the air, the changing of a person's disposition from love to hate, the control of thunder, rain, and sunshine, the transformation of a man into an animal, the intercourse of incubi and succubi with human beings. Not only the attempt to practise such things but the very belief in their possibility is treated by him as a sin for which the confessor must require his penitent to do a serious assigned penance. Gregory VII in 1080 wrote to King Harold of Denmark forbidding witches to be put to death upon presumption of their having caused storms or failure of crops or pestilence. Neither were these the only examples of an effort to stem the tide of unjust suspicion to which these poor creatures were exposed. (See for example the Weihenstephan case discussed by Weiland in the "Zeitschrift f. Kirchengesch.", IX, 592).

  One of this days, perhaps, someone will come here, to this Forum, to say that the WTS is connected with the al-Qa'ida & Usama bin Laden and all the 11 of September events! I would not be surprised at all!

  GIVE ME A BREAK!
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  While JW's stagnate, others grow

  by Gopher in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/3238618.html

  mormons, evangelicals led '90s church growth

  published 9/18/2002 .

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  Growing or numbers do not mean anything! What are we talking about? A business? Terrorism is growing too!

  Bahh...
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  Occult symbol in the WTS literature?

  by Nordic in

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  here is a link .

  www.bigwig.net/knots/nightmares/occult.htm try it.

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  WHAT ABOUT WHAT?
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  WT. Pays $30,000 Pollution Fine

  by JWrobot in

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  Nassau

  THAT'S FINE

  OHH...THAT HURTS!!

  Maybe they did not understand what happened!

  Edited by - nassau on 18 September 2002 12:2:47