Dunedain

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  Remember that WT masturbation video? Who is the sign language person?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  below are a few screen captures from the video to serve as a reminder of what he looks like.

  below those will be a few captures from a weather forecaster now at our kark tv (arkansas).

  his name is matt peterson.

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  Dunedain

  Lol, what is this WT masturbation video? What am i missing here, i never heard of it? Can somone explain.
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  The Ages Of The Biblical Patriarchs

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i've been reading the imitate their faith book (because my wife wants to) and keep coming upon these ridiculous ages for the bible patriarchs.

  now i know wt takes everything literally but there has got to be some explanation that makes more sense.

  why would the bible writers create these obviously false ages?

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  Actually, if we were to "beleive", the complete story, then the reason they would have lived to such a ripe old age, is because they were closer to the "pure" stock of Adam. If we beleive the account, and Adam was created perfect, then the successive generations closest to him would have been closer to perfection, hence able to live longer. As more and more generations continued further and further from the original, perfect man Adam, then their life span would have lessened and lessened.

  I am not in any way saying that i beleive this, i am just saying that it is an "explanation" for THIS STORY, and why the humans CLOSEST to Adam would have lived longer. Although Adam "sinned", and lost everlasting life, he still would have been as close to perfect as any human ever was, and his initial offspring/generations would have been closer to that pure, strong stock. We today, would be the furthest from that, both "dumbed" down and weaker, if we beleive the story as actual fact/history.
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  Warwick Polution

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has there been any discussion about why jehovah would guide his people to a polluted property to build their world headquarters?

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  WOW, i guess the WTS never heard of a PERC test before, lol. All they needed to do, was get a soil sample from a few "strategic" places around the property. Do a ground bore down to 6 to 8 feet, and get the soil tested. It is very simple, and any real estate attorney, property inspector, or even an average layman, knows this should be done. Especially, on a major land purchase like this one, where there was a huge commercial company operating on it for years.

  I have bought about a dozen multi-family, residential homes, over the years, and even i knew to get them PERC tested before i closed on them. These were just residential properties, nothing commercial, but there could still be underground, buried, oil tanks, on the property leaking oil. In fact, i happened to find out about a buried oil tank, BEFORE i fully closed on the property, by doing a soil sample PERC test.

  This is just basic stuff, nothing mind blowing. The fact that the WTS did a MAJOR purchase like this, without checking for contaminated soil, is absurd. They either, do things on their own, in house so to speak, and have no outside attorneys advising them, or they have very stupid people working with them.

  If they think they are going to sue the previous owners, they are going to be in for a rude awakening. 99 percent of the time, once you close on a property, YOU are responsible for it from that point. All purchasers of property, have a right, BEFORE hand, to get all inspections, and to do, due diligence. Once you close on the property, YOU are then responsible for whatever is wrong with it. The ONLY time, this would not be true, is if the seller of the property KNOWINGLY, or fraudulantly, hid that it was contaminated. This is very hard to prove, hence why the responsibility is on the purchaser to do their tests, BEFORE hand.

  These tests, typically, are not even that expensive, but they ARE the would be purchaser's expense. So, maybe, the WTS is so cheap, they didnt go for the SMART, additional expense of a soil test, and got screwed. I bet that if they did not do any proper testing beforehand, then they have NO leg to stand on now. They could be, truly, and rightly SCREWED on this deal. It is now their responsibility to clean up the property.
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  Personal thoughts and evaluations upon the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from my own personal feelings about the jws when i was involved and i was brought up in the is religious practice from birth, was one of feeling of being lied to, exploited and manipulated to a certain extent.

  reflectively though i could see some wholesome social behavior direction being propagated not surprising nevertheless since this faith is based from christianity at its core.. where and how the wts/jws got bit corrupted i believe is that this organization has always had a publishing house and its core operation and supporting finances were mostly from that endeavoring operation.

  this also included creating doctrines which were to support and enhance the proliferation of those published works.

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  There are MANY aspects to consider, when thinking perspectively about the WTS. Yes, it is true that there are Christian beleifs at its core, but it ends there. There are the many, many, doctrinal changes, and "truth" being correct at one point in time, to then be incorrect at another, or the wildly incorrect "prophesying" of dates, which have been wrong from the very beginning, until current.

  Besides all the incorrect interpretations, and flip flopping concerning doctrine, i feel the major issue with the WTS, is their "love". I NEVER felt "TRUE" love from most members of the org. Yes, there are always the warm, nice, older caring ones, and the back rubbing friendly brothers and sisters, BUT it is all conditional, most of the time. Even when ones were enquiring about others, its usually with the motive of gaining information.

  I was born in the "truth", and was there up until my very early 20's. Now that i am 40, i was basically in the "truth", and out for an equal amount of time. Perspectively, i can say that in the "truth", i have met the MOST judgemental people i have ever known. I have met some of the most back stabbing humans ever. I have met the most fakest person, i have ever known.

  There is NO true brotherhood behind the Kingdom halls doors. Everyone is gossiping, forming cliques, and running around "spying" on each other. You couldnt truly confide in anyone, as there is always the fear of being "turned in". The looming spectre of being brought to the elders, causes everyone to be fake, and superficial with each other. No real depth of caring for each other. There is no forgiveing each other, and taking the good with the bad, like true familys and friends do. I may argue with my wife in the morning, but 5 minutes later, we still know we LOVE each other, and have each others backs. My sibling may say something to annoy me today, but tomorow, if she needs me, I am there for her.

  This does NOT exist in the ORG. Everyones "love", is conditional on outward appearences, that are dictated by the WTS's rules of what makes someone "worthy". You could be a REAL, TRUE friend, and the most kind hearted human being, but if you only put in 1 hour of field service each month, then you are shit in their eyes. This is NOT true Christianity. It does NOT exist there. There is NO love there. It is ONLY, obey and stay. Thats it, nothing else.

  I picked up this "vibe" from an early age. I could tell that these people WERE fake, and it never sat right with me. As i got older, into my teenage years, i found it harder and harder to be "like" them. I could not act "fake", like them. I saw thru the bullshit, and it caused me to draw further and further away from them. If that meant that i looked "unworthy" in their eyes, then that WAS FINE. I do NOT want to seem "worthy" by THEM, because their standards of worth, are HORRIBLE.

  I am a REAL, and genuine human being. I have empathy, love, and a heart of kindness. I only keep friends with humans who hold these same values. My family, and extended family, love each other, and support each other, truly. This is why i am NOT a JW anymore.
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  WT history repeating?

  by WasOnceBlind in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i war reading an interesting research article about charles taze russell and all of his financial dealings.

  this caught my eye:.

  charles taze russell and the watchtower society were in deep business distress after the "busted" october 1914 prophecy failure, and particularly after the "busted" october 1915 prophecy failure.

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  Interesting, in life, most things come full circle. I truly beleive that we are witnessing the end of the witnesses/org. With this information we learn that the org started with this exact financial situation, and now it will END with the exact same financial situation.

  It is almost poetic, and ironic at its best.
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  Of Minions and Smurfs

  by oppostate in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  didn't take too long for the minions to join the smurfs as being satanic in the minds of some jw's.

  whadda-bunch-of-bull-hukey-puckiesi!.

  this showed up on jw facebook timelines today.. .

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  Dunedain

  The funny thing is, it is easier to understand the minions "gibberish", than it is to understand the 1914 generation chart by Splane.
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  Dont Give Them More Power Than They Deserve

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new montra that was recently adopted by the wife and i is this:.

  dont give them more power than they deserve.. here's why i say that, and i point this to those of you still in the congregation, still trying to decide what you want to do.. recently, our family had a little family reunion gathering of sorts, and we were in the company of some extended family that were either df or da, to varying degrees.

  we made it very clear, to any and all in attendance, that we wanted to be respectful and kind, despite any previous perceptions about our "status".... and that our feelings on a lot of things had "softened", and "changed" over the last 2 years.. i am being purposefully slightly vague, but i think you get the point.

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  @ - Khaleesi - Queen of the Andals, and the 7 kingdoms, and by the very Valarian blood that courses thru your veins, do I proclaim that "they have no power over us".
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  Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is becoming more common.

  this is from the last part of the article: .

  "this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".

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  Dunedain

  Scumbag!
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  Dont Give Them More Power Than They Deserve

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new montra that was recently adopted by the wife and i is this:.

  dont give them more power than they deserve.. here's why i say that, and i point this to those of you still in the congregation, still trying to decide what you want to do.. recently, our family had a little family reunion gathering of sorts, and we were in the company of some extended family that were either df or da, to varying degrees.

  we made it very clear, to any and all in attendance, that we wanted to be respectful and kind, despite any previous perceptions about our "status".... and that our feelings on a lot of things had "softened", and "changed" over the last 2 years.. i am being purposefully slightly vague, but i think you get the point.

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  Dunedain

  I have been saying this for some time now. You guys are all 100 percent correct. If we/you dont feed into their BS, and play their "game", then they cannot do anything. These MEN, do NOT have ANY power. It is only in their heads.

  Think about it, were ANY Elders "elected", or chosen by the congregation? NOPE. Why, just because a few, puffed up with pride, judgemental, power hungry, delusional MEN, meet in a back room and say " you are an elder now", that gives them some kind of spiritual authority over us??? I dont think so!

  If any of these MEN continue,or try to "harrass" you, we should all say to them, "who are YOU, what authority do you have over me, I did NOT choose you to lord over me, someone else did that, and I DONT need to listen to you".

  If i could go back in time to 20 years ago, but as the 40 year old MAN i am today, i can assure you NONE of those men would BULLY, JUDGE, and say anything close to what they said to me, when i was a cult controlled 20 year old boy. They are NOT shepards, or care takers of the flock. They are self imposed bullys, looking to berate, and hound the flock. There is NO love in them, only a will to inflict their "power". BUT, they have NO power. They are NOTHING, and especially if we do not feed into their own, self created "hierarchy". None of us put them in their position, so therefore, none of us should be affected by their position.

  As Gandalf would say, "YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE", lol.
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  Warwick Polution

  by scotoma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has there been any discussion about why jehovah would guide his people to a polluted property to build their world headquarters?

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  @ - Scotoma - Can you expound on the "pollution" issue concerning Warwick, please? I must be outta the loop, cause i havnt heard anything about it. I appreciate you letting us know, thanks.