Posts by Dunedain

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Are GB accountable for deaths for changing policy ?

by Chook in

example blood factions, organ transplants.

suicide from disfellowshipping , breaking up family's with old oral sex policy.

Dunedain

I think specifically concerning the blood issue, and their essentially reversing decades of the NO blood rule, by now allowing fractions, there could be some legal ramifications. I only believe it would happen though, if many people got together, and worked together with lawyers. It would have to kinda be like a class action lawsuit type of thing.

If many folks who have lost loved ones, and the stories of the countless people who have been directly affected by the blood issue, came to the forefront, the WBTS could be in trouble. If it changed popular opinion, and gained public awareness, some lawyers would smell "blood" in the water. They may come in like sharks, and the WBTS could have quite a few "bites" taken out of them.

On the other issues, I don't feel they would ever gain traction in a legal sort of way.

That being said, the GB have a TREMENDOUS accountability for all their flip flopping on issues. It is a moral accountability, and their NEVER taking any responsibility, is where they have shown themselves to be morally guilty. They are blood guilty, and they shall be held accountable. Whether it is thru legal means, members exposing them, or a higher power, they will be accountable one day.

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Those formula prayers. I want to scream

by stillin in

when the co is visiting, i think i hear "thank you , jehovah, for this special week of activity" until i want to vomit.. also "jehovah, please remember those sick and afflicted.

we pray that they can make a recovery and be back with us.".

stale, canned, institutionalized garble.

Dunedain

Pete Zahut - Your story had me laughing, dude. I am just picturing everybody sitting there like dipshits, with their heads down, wondering "whats going on with Pete", lol. Funny shit.

Anyway, it really was kind of absurd that everyone would basically say the same thing in each prayer. It was essentially a shuffling around of sentences. This sentence in front of that one, and that one in front of this one, but always the same sentences.

Yet, these same brothers would condemn "false religion" because THEY would recite the same prayers. Well, what was the difference, none, that's what.

Funny story, I heard about a brother who when giving the concluding prayer, he blew the whistle on himself. The brother was committing fornication, and in his prayer he said, "and Jehovah please forgive us for our sins, and myself for the fornication I have committed". DOH, talk about putting your foot in your mouth, lol.

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"If the Earth were just a little bit further from or closer to the Sun, we would all freeze or burn"

by Island Man in

i'm sure we've all heard this argument by theists employing the fine-tuning argument.

are you aware, however, of exactly how much this "little bit" really is?

theists would have us think that the slightest change in the distance would have drastic implications for survivability.

Dunedain

@ Coded Logic - Is that true about the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, Europa, and the other one you mentioned, having vast oceans?

That is a very interesting fact. I don't believe I heard that before. I had thought they were frozen, but I am probably wrong, lol.

If you have a link, or anywhere you could direct, that has info on the moons having oceans, specifically, that would be awesome.

I appreciate it, thanks in advance.

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A Hard Lesson Learned

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

do you remember that my dad passed away last year and i was going back to the witnesses after 26 years?

i got reinstated after going there for 9 months.

in the 5 months since then i felt the men in the congregation didn't want me there.

Dunedain

"From the abundance of their hearts, the mouth speaks". Or in this case their actions speak volumes.

The ONLY witches here, are THEM, clearly on their witch hunt.

What fools, bathing in their own ignorance, wallowing in their own self deluded, pride, and arrogance. These foolish men, pride themselves, on using the self proclaimed title of "Shepherds". The truth of the matter is, they are WOLVES.

A TRUE shepherd, would fight tooth and nail, and with all their power, to keep their sheep safe. If the perils of the world were encroaching upon any in their flock, a TRUE shepherd would never in turn, THROW THEM OUT OF THE PROTECTION OF THE FLOCK, to be eaten.

Disassociated Lady, these men are fools. I am sorry for any pain they may have caused you, but not to make light of the situation, but they did you a FAVOR. You are "free" from these intolerable men, who think they have some power to judge fellow humans. They fear what they do not understand. They show no love. You admitted that love was shown from someone "worldy", not from these professed "Christians". This truly tells it all, doesn't it.

"You shall know my people by the love they show amongst themselves". Well it is clear who these people are. Their "fruits" are rotten, their roots are evil. Its time to cut down the tree.

Stay here Disassociated Lady, you will be loved here, not judged.

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Ideas to discreetly identify the awoken among us

by Truthexplorer in

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ok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).

there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.

i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.

Dunedain

One of my family members is COMPLETELY awake. He knows, and sees that its all complete and utter BS.

He even has a very close friend in another congregation 20 minute away, who is an ELDER, and is COMPLETELY awake.

They meet once a week for breakfast, and or other outings, and discuss the current nonsense that is being pushed. His elder friend even gives him "dirt" on what craziness is going down in his congregation. Believe you me, some of it is indeed CRAZY, too.

My point is, that these are 2 men, one of them even being an Elder, that are in 2 different congregations, that a COMPLETELY awake. They are not kinda on the fence, or half and half, they KNOW whats up. That being said, from outside "perspectives" they are both "IN". so you never know who may be, or not be "awake".

I don't remember the details of how they both realized each other was "awake". I should find out, and post it here. Maybe it will be an example of a good way to find out if someone else is awake.

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Who Is In Charge of the Governing Body?

by minimus in

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who is the top dog now?.

Dunedain

I don't know which one in the picture above, with all 8 of them, is in charge.

However, what I DO know, is that the one in the picture above who's wearing a suit and tie, is a self deluded, megalomaniac, money hungry, twisted, blood guilty, charlatan, who's days are numbered.

Don't worry, though, its just the ones wearing a suit and tie, in that picture, that are this way.

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How delusional is Tony Morris actually?

by Festus in

anthony morris iii was representing gb in international convention in helsinki, finland.

in his final talk he mentioned that at the fight of armageddon jesus will fight together with the 144 000. he then reminds the audience that one angel destroyed 185000 assyrians.

so what are "144 000 immortal creatures together with jesus going to do".

Dunedain

Lets think about that statement by Tony Morris, of him one day being able to control the weather.

What he is saying, in effect, is that when he dies and is shot up to heaven in the blink of an eye, he will then have the power to stop thunder, and control the weather.

So, based on what HE SAID, we can only assume that the OTHER "anointed" who have already died, are up in heaven, immortal, and with the "powers" that Tony describes.

Well then, I guess the anointed must HATE Louisiana in America, with all the flooding. They anointed MUST hate the California wilderness with the lightning strikes causing forest fires. The anointed, are causing rivers to surge in Texas, drowning souls, and homes a like. BEWARE the next tornado in middle America, BEWARE the mud slides from rain, in South America, BEWARE the hurricane that hits the Eastern seaboard, BEWARE all the weather patterns around the globe that will kill thousands, this year alone.

BEWARE it, because according to Tony, his "anointed" brothers up in heaven already, are controlling ALL THAT WEATHER.

He's a fu#$ing idiot. Self deluded prick, who has no clue whats up. He believes his own bullshit. BEWARE Tony, pride is what befalls ones one destruction. BEWARE Tony, that YOU don't get washed away by your own anointed brothers raining down on YOU.

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Here is a pic of Stephen Lett and his wife.

by Iamallcool in

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Dunedain

Wasn't there something recently in print, or given in a talk, about brothers not having tight pants, and sisters not having short "male" haircuts.

Another thing, Lett smiles like a 4 year old child, who is still learning how to smile for pictures. They tend to over-exaggerate their smile, just like him.

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Jw's and beards

by wannaexit in

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without going into details.

it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.

Dunedain

I've been rocking a beard/goatee since I left in my very early 20's. I love it, cause I am lazy and hate shaving. I let it go for about 3 or 4 months, then trim it down, rinse repeat.

Honestly, on the rare occasions when I am with a bunch of JW's, I think a lot of the brothers are jealous I have a beard. These brothers only knew me as being clean shaven from youth until I left, and all they ever say when they see me now is, "you look real good". Lol, I like to think its my beard.

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Do you remember this WT calendar art?

by compound complex in

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these are of early '70s vintage, i recall.

my job was to sort through thousands of these and be sure they were not "off register.".

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Dunedain

I remember that bible as well. It was definitely the green one, that had the dinosaurs. In my 4 and 5 year old mind, while sitting thru those boring meetings, I would always stare at the dinos on the inside covers. It was the "coolest" thing in any WBTS, that I remember.

Now in response to the OP's showing of those calendar pics, I do not remember them. They were probably before my time. One thing I do notice about the baptism picture, it looks like everyone being baptized is an ADULT. I do not see any 12 and 13 year olds getting dunked. Looks like a fully bearded man going under, and one leaving the water. The female entering the water, appears to be very adult as well, lol. Everyone else is observing.