Posts by Dunedain

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Are they clones?

by cookiemaster in

anyone else notice this about jw public speakers.

they all seem like clones.

they have the same mannerisms, try to use the same style of speaking, similar jokes, etc.

Dunedain

Its true, there is a certain "brand" of fake, monotone, weird, and odd speaking that is "championed" by this modern version of the borg.

What the higher ups consider or think is a good speaker is what each speaker tries to emulate. Having the Org videos is also adding to this, as the R&F watch these vids of certain emulated brothers, and try to imitate them.

This is a by product of a Cult, where certain natural expressions of "freedom" are not allowed. When certain weird speakers happen to be "up there" in the JW hierarchy, it creates a lot of following the leader type crap.

They all look like robotic, weirdos, and this is who are "teaching" the rank n file, and youth of this Cult.

And, in answer to your question, YES they ARE clones. The Borg has a cloning factory in upstate NY. They are genetically splicing, robotics, odd facial gestures, haughty attitudes, and weird mannerisms, into the DNA of these clones.

Us "apostates" are the rebel alliance, and soon we shall be fighting the "Clone Wars".

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They are increasingly appealing to emotion

by cookiemaster in

they always have but lately, they've taken it to a whole new level.

the new convention video about the end, the many videos at conventions and meetings, the new songs, all highly emotionally manipulative.

and they're working.

Dunedain

Yes, they are doing this. The reason is because nothing else is working. Their doctrine is all but insignificant. The level of content is beyond basic.

They are non existent in the field, and publishing areas. Their flip flopping on MAJOR doctrine, is failing them. The information age is exposing them, and the R&F are leaving in droves. No more quick builds, branches closing, and congregations merging or closing.

The Borg is OUT of options. They NEED to rely on "emotion" and "shock", and if it SCARES, or FRIGHTENS some to stay, then they are happy to do that.

Their problem is that these types of "shock" videos, while they may stir some emotion at the time, do NOT work long term. After EVERY assembly every JW is like, "Oh that was the best assembly ever". Then its back to the same old BS.

Yes, you may see some tears, and reactions, but after awhile, when ALL they have to offer is ONLY an emotionally charged video at the end of each assembly, its going to be become the "same old thing", again.

There are some that will never leave, and always drink the "kool aid". Honestly though, anyone with even a tiny bit of critical thinking, is going to say, after awhile, "what ARE the GB trying to say"????

All they are going to see, as there is NOTHING else being produced of substance, is a bunch of these "scary" videos YEAR after YEAR, with NOTHING changing. Its no different than the "scary" Armagedon pictures we used to see in the publications, except, these vids ARE more graphic, and after awhile its message will mean NOTHING, as it does to us NOW.

There is NO "payout" with these vids, they just cause more questions, and more head scratching, especially when its the same BS every assembly or convention.

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EXJW Tattoo

by blownaway in

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if anyone has any ideas or pictures of a tattoo that would sum up being an ex jw please share.

Dunedain

How about an axe thats chopping down a giant tree. The axe can have the word "truth" on it, or "freedom", or something else appropriate.

The tree being cut down, would naturally represent the Borg, so you could put symbols, or items in the tree, that represent the borg. Or even the "fruit" of the tree could be rotten or symbols that represent the borg.

The axe could be stuck in the base of the trunk of the tree, while the tree itself is cut and in the middle of falling to the ground.

This can represent the collapsing of the borg, the end of your involvement in the borg, as you are the axe, or the wielder of it.

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Georgia jury awards 1 BILLION DOLLARS after guard rapes 14 year old teen

by Esse quam videri in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/georgia-jury-awards-dollar1-billion-after-guard-rapes-teen/ar-aaxi4l2?li=bbnbfcl.

the public is getting very upset at the abuse of children.

how would the society survive if hit with this kind of award for the conduct of pedophile members when evidence shows they were trying to silence the victim by threats to protect the watchtower's reputation.

Dunedain

This was a no brainer. If you give an animal a gun, like this security company did, without background checks and proper due diligence, they DESERVE to be sued for this amount of money and put out of business.

Imagine this was your 14 year old daughter, and some animal who was irresponsibly given a loaded weapon, used said weapon to RAPE your child.

No amount of money could fix that, but at least this amount can give some solace.

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CO asked for everyone 20 years old & younger for a group photo

by LevelThePlayingField in

there was a co visit in ohio a couple weeks ago.

when he was finishing up his sunday talk he said that he would like if "all the children that are from this congregation, not if you're just visiting, but from this congregation to come on up on the stage right after the meeting because i want to get a picture of you.".

i thought to myself, why?

Dunedain

The scary thing about these "youth" pictures, is i bet years from now we are going to find out that most of these pictures were strategically placed under each C.O.s mattress, for "personal study".

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"World conditions have never been as bad as they are now"

by Sour Grapes in

i went to a funeral yesterday and ran into a jdub.

of course, he approached me and it didn't take more than a minute into the conversation for him to get into the jdub gloom and doom mode.

he said that world conditions have never been as bad as they are now.. i looked straight into his eyes and said, "i think that world conditions were a lot worse during world war two.".

Dunedain

It can easily be argued that at this point in human history things are better than they ever were. Up until the modern inventions of antibiotics and other marvels of modern medical care, people were dying of ear infections, and the flu, and "common" ailments that today we take for granted.

Wars in our past were extremely more brutal, and widespread. The brutality of the American Civil war to the 2 World wars of last century are examples of this. Things are also perspective as well. If you were sold into slavery as an African, in the 17th or 18th century, then you were living in the worst "days". If you were starving in an impoverished country, no matter what time period, those were the worst times for your history.

If you were a Jewish person during the Holocaust, you were most likely thinking you were in the "final days". If you were an American indian during the 17 and 1800's, slowly watching your culture and people being wiped away, that was your Armageddon.

There are countless examples that could be given, and during ANY century of documented human existence, that could be argued were the "worst" times in history, especially if you were on the "wrong end" of it.

Yes, there are still plenty of current horrors that are befalling people around the earth. Yet, we have the best medical care EVER. We have the most educated groups of people and opportunity for education, around the planet, especially with modern technology, than ever before. Our life expectancy, and birth rate are greater than ever. Mass starvation, and epic famines, are no where near the scale of what they were only 20 years ago.

It can be argued that with the continued break thrus of modern technologies, and the sharing globally of thoughts and ideas via the internet, we are going through a modern "renaissance" so to speak. The quality of life for MOST, and on the largest scale ever, has increased exponentially, and is only getting better.

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My mom is haunted by the ghost of Fred Franz... now we have gotten to the root of this problem

by silentbuddha in

so last night at around 11 while me and the wife were watching netflix and my cellphone rings.

i didn't make it in time and saw it was my mother who never speaks to me.

i decided to call back fearing something happened with my dad.

Dunedain

WOW, i am glad you can take what your Mom did with a grain of salt Silentbuddha, cause she is a nut dude. I am glad you are able to laugh, and not let her wackiness get to you, kudos for that.

The only other option would be letting her ranting and raving bring YOU down, and that would suck. This organization has truly warped a lot of people over the years. It only makes sense too, if you think about it, as the leaders themselves are VERY warped.

Anthony Morris thinks he is gonna be some kind of warrior, murdering badass, LOL, what a F#$king JOKE. Let that Mother F@#ker come by my house wielding some weird ass spiritual sword, and i will quickly relieve him of his weapon, and dispatch him in a matter of seconds, and see how he likes his own sword firmly implanted up his ass.

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Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead

by Whynot in

paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.

native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.

so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.

Dunedain

I put certain paranormal abilities, telepathy, telekinisis, esp, and other abilities, in the same vein as those that have other naturally extraordinary gifts. There are some who are born with incredible mathematic skills, or can just play a musical instrument without ever having a single lesson.

There are savants who may be socially or emotionally restricted, yet their minds can do somewhat unimaginable things. Our brains are capable of far more than they typically used for. Some humans have certain mental abilities greater than others. Its as if certain "doors" in the brains are opened, where most "normal" people have these same "doors" closed.

Thats why certain abilities can happen AFTER a brain injury, or even a traumatic event. Sometimes certain doors are closed, and people lose abilities, or shut down, while others may open up.

There is variety, and much uniqueness within the billions of human brains around planet earth. Maybe some people have certain seemed "powers" because they have simply tapped into areas of the brain that others havent.

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Kingdom Hall shot up in Washington state

by Crazyguy in

a kingdom hall near a small community called yelm was shot up.

yelm is where two kingdom halls where set on fire about a month ago.

i think someone, exjw, in that area is really pissed off..

Dunedain

@ Stuckinarut2 - I remember when that KH bombing happened in Australia. I was a kid, maybe like 10 yrs old, or something, and i am in the states. My family and i were on vacation and i can vividly remember the KH bombing being reported on in the news.

My parents, who back then were drinking the Kool aid, were laying in bed in our Hotel room, and the newscaster came on saying - " There was a church bombing in Australia". Well my parents didnt flinch, UNTIL the newscaster continued and said it was at a Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Wintnesses!!!! They both BOUNCED up outta bed, wide eyed, and fully intent on seeing what happened.

I will NEVER forget that moment, it was like it happened yesterday. Myself being young, said - " Whats wrong, what happened", and they said SHHHH a Kingdom hall exploded.

Evidently, that was big news, as it was broadcasted on the news all the way where i was at here in United states.

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What happned to the Quick Builds

by blownaway in

so the qbs were huge in the 80s and 90s, now i hear nothing.

have they stopped?.

Dunedain

I went on 1 "quick build" in my young life, and vowed NEVER again. I was about 18 to 19 years old, and i realized within 5 minutes that it was a JOKE.

Even at 18 years old i had a fairly extensive construction background. Home improvements was my first trade, and i had been involved in it since about 12 years old, and actually started my own company at around 18 years old.

I only went, cause at that time i used to hang with a bro in my cong that liked to help out on "quick builds" every once in a while, and i went along with him. Honestly, he was a drinking buddy, and i think his "slave labor" at quick builds helped ease his conscience of all his drunken nights from the rest of the week.

Anyway, i saw the ridiculous way things were run, and that there were essentially people in charge that didnt know anywhere near as much as they thought they did. In turn, they were delegating "jobs" to other people who REALLY had no idea what they were doing. Yes there was a TON of people standing around, but that didnt bother me as much as the people that actually were doing the work had no clue what they were doing.

I was watching studs being ripped out that were already cut and nailed into place, because they were cut at the wrong size. I witnessed roofing shingles being put on without proper flashing work, and so on.

It was just stupid, and i couldnt get outta that "quick build" quick enough.