Posts by Dunedain

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Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

(not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

Dunedain

This is like saying that Gandalf and Saruman are the same person. I mean come on guys, really?

You see Saruman was known as Saruman the white, but Gandalf was known as Gandalf the Grey. Saruman the White was the top of the Wizardly order, with white being purer and higher than Grey.

Now, i know there is some confusion, since Gandalf the Grey does eventually become Gandalf the White, but thats not till after Gandalf kills the Balrog at Kazad Dum.

So yes, we do have a Saruman the White, AND a Gandalf the White, but they cannot be the same person, as Gandalf was Gandalf the Grey BEFORE he became Gandalf the White. BTW, there is another Wizard named Radagast the Brown, but we wouldnt want to confuse things, so i will leave him out.

So guys, please dont get hung up on "specific words", and "phrases". This stuff is easy to see and clear as can be. The Father/Saruman the White, cannot be the Son/Gandalf the Grey/White, and leave the Holy Spirit/Radagast the Brown outta this, ok.

Simple enough.

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Watch: Jehovah's Witnesses official says to destroy records because

by Tahoe in

'satan's coming after us'.

screenshot from video.

shawn bartlett, the records management overseer for the jehovah’s witnesses, explains the organization’s new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar in britain.

Dunedain

This stuff should really be put out there for the authorities, lawyers, leaders, politicians, and child advocacy groups, to see how shady this organization really is.

Its never about humbling themselves and admitting doing wrong, and fixing things. Its never about them protecting the very children in their own organization. The same children that they are supposed to protect, shepherd, and watch over. Remember how Jesus himself, LOVED the little children, and wanted to be approachable for them.

What would Jesus think of this organization, with whom archaic policies actually HURT, and ABUSE children? He would have stormed the very offices, and abodes of the leaders of this false organization. He would have focused his time and energy into exposing them, and stopping them. Like he flipped and threw the tables, and money changers in the temples, he would have stormed the very doors of Upstate NY.

The least we can do is help put this info out there. This kind of stuff is HUGE. It shows their TRUE heart conditions. They are ONLY concerned with covering up, trying to hide records, and erasing the evils, ONLY for the protection of their fat asses.

All the COs, and Elders that go along with this, and help in hiding records, and destroying evidence, should REALLY beware of what they choose to do. Now they can and should be held responsible as well as the GB themselves. If they sign on to this, and go along with this evil, they show where their hearts are, and they shall be held to, and judged by their actions as well.

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Venezuela oil worker video assembly

by Steel in

for anyone who didn't have the pleasure of attending the assembly , they has a video of a venezuelan man who with 20 years experience was asked to sign a card stating he was a member of a political party to keep his job.

he choose to become a day labour with three kids to feed.. i work in a union shop with a few jws and we had to join the union to remain employed.

i have never been to a meeting.

Dunedain

Didnt the WTBS sign something that made them a member of the United Nations, weird huh.

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The false prophet strikes again! Didn't anyone notice?

by nowwhat? in

last year during the closing talk our favorite anthony morris lll in all his glory declared" armageddon is imminent!

" on the broadcast screen at every regional convention world wide!

well it has been a year now and if you look at the definition of imminent , we are well past the expiration date..

Dunedain

Wait, hold on, you mean a "prophesy" from the GB has not come to be!!! How is this possible? They are Gods ONLY Earthly representation, and very mouthpiece. If they foretold something, and it did not come to pass, wouldnt that mean that they are NOT being directed by God himself???

Hold on, i gotta look into this further. Has this ever happened before, where the WTBS foretold that the end was coming, and it actually DID NOT happen? If thats the case, these guys just may not have the "truth", weird.

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Money... $$$$

by lastmanstanding in

oh the money.. this years rc gave me a thought as i watched the money pour in.. at the circuit assemblies, the one dayers now, the “deficit” has been announced and the dubs expected to “rise to the occasion” with their cash.

we all thought that dubs, eventually, would do the math and see that the watchtower boys were charging a per-head fee.

we thought that this would make them think, and they would see the money grubbing.

Dunedain

Brilliant, lets do it.

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Kids in my kingdom hall

by Akid48 in

i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.

when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..

Dunedain

There is an underlying "air" of physical abuse specifically within the WTBS, concerning parents and young children. Their go to scripture is the "Use the rod" scripture. Its almost like a get out of jail free card for beating your kid.

The sick thing about it, is that its almost a badge of "spirituality" for parents. The Elders have to make sure their kids are well behaved little JW clones, so NO misbehaving can be tolerated, hence a good "crack" on the head.

The up and coming MS servants young kids must be obedient, if they are gonna reach out for more privileges, hence the "slap" to the face.

The single sister raising her kids in the "truth", must show that she knows how to teach her kids "right and wrong", hence the "dragging them crying to the back school".

ALL of this is accepted, and literally encouraged by the R&F. There is NEVER anyone standing up for the children in their halls. There is NEVER any thought that, "hey maybe these poor kids are bored to death", and its NORMAL for a little acting out, and it is NOT normal to expect toddlers to sit still for 2 hours straight.

The funny thing is, the ONLY time i ever remember there being a local needs talk concerning children and misbehaving, was not saying maybe we are being too harsh on our kids. NOPE, instead it was specifically about embarrassing a brother whos 3 year old son would sometimes talk or make some noise during the meetings, and that the congregation had a "problem" of children interrupting their precious talks from the podium.

The result from that local needs was that the brother and sister whom it was intended for, left the congregation with their child, and started attending another hall, and all the remaining kids started getting their asses beaten and dragged to the back room, more often.

Good job guys!!! Its all about pushing the "perfect JW image", while abusing your children.

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If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?

by blownaway in

i guess it would depend for me.

some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.

many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.

Dunedain

I would not do that, in no way shape or form, sorry. I couldnt do that, and honestly i wouldnt do it towards "worldly" people, either.

I would not give the government the satisfaction of making their jobs easier by helping to round up fellow humans. Not my style. I am not a snitch, and or rat.

My current lifestyle is not neccessarily squeaky clean, and i would want to be left alone, and not ratted on for stupid nonsense. Hence, i would never do that to someone else. If someone "wrongs" me, my go to response is NOT to tun them in, but i will have justice by my own hand, and take care of my own "business".

The JW religion, as a whole, has done some horrible things, but the average rank n file doesnt need to be thrown in jail for being mislead by an organization. They dont deserve that. Even the few asshole elders that have personally wronged me, and DESERVE some justice, would not be ratted on by me.

Now, if it was the 8 GB members, and i knew where they were, and was in that specific position to turn THEM in, and only them, then YES i would.

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Satan temping Eve. Had she not ate

by pleaseresearch in

being the loving god that he is :).

how do you imagine this playing out.

let's say eve didn't eat and so we didn't fall into sin.. what do you think god would have done with satan and his demons?.

Dunedain

Also, along with mikefloods coment, is that angels were presumably around for million, if not billions of years with God and Jesus, up in heaven.

The were contemporaries of them, as fellow spiritual creatures. They not only witnessed the complete creation of the physical UNIVERSE, with all the galaxies, suns, solar systems, earth, animal, plant life, and humans, but also lived in the spiritual realm with them.

For them to have disobeyed, and forsaken their natural forms, is quite a stretch, and baffling. Then for Adam and Eve to have been tempted RIGHT AWAY, after their creation, and held to such a high standard, when they were really only INFANTS, in the big scheme of things.

So, perfect angelic creatures, who LIVE with GOD, and have been around for billions of years, sinned ONLY then, and get a slap on the wrist, and allowed to MOLEST the 2 newest creatures, human man and woman. Meanwhile, they were only children in comparison, both age wise, mentally, and an inferior creature, compared to an ANGEL. Yet now for eating a F@CKING fruit, have to deal with death, misery, disease, pain, shame, and all the evils of the world.

If you were God, or a parent, would you let some godlike all powerful creature, with powers, and intellect beyond imagining, with cunning, and ill intent, tamper or harass your NEWBORN BABY. No, you would NEVER do that. Yet, by God allowing Satan to molest/tamper with Adam and Eve, thats EXACTLY what happened, if you really think about it. Then would you blame the BABY for being seduced and hurt, or would you have protected that baby. Adam and Eve were new "babies" when compared to the millenia of spiritual creatures, and their time on planet earth.

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Shot off a TON of Fireworks for the 4th of July, did anybody else?

by Dunedain in

i just finally settled down for the night, as its 1 a.m. in the morning, est, right now.

i finally cleaned up my yard a bit, and a few friends that were over have left.. anyway, i bought about $1,000 dollars worth of fireworks to shoot off for the 4th.

i had sooo much sh%t, i didnt think i was gonna shoot anywhere near as much as i did, but, between me and 2 buddies, we shot off like 85% of it.. literally for an hour and a half we were shooting non stop, sometimes 3 or 4 heavy mortars at once, without a break.

Dunedain

@ Mightyv8 - You are more than welcome, lol. Would love to have ya. I know you would have loved the show brother.

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Satan temping Eve. Had she not ate

by pleaseresearch in

being the loving god that he is :).

how do you imagine this playing out.

let's say eve didn't eat and so we didn't fall into sin.. what do you think god would have done with satan and his demons?.

Dunedain

I thought about this exact same scenario, except it was 36 years ago, when i was 6 years old, lol. I was a young, born in, indoctrinated 6 year old, raised on the My book of bible stories, talks from the podium, Watchtower mags, and all the other bullsh$t.

Yet, one night, at the tender age of 6 years old, after a little study between me and my 30 something year old, Elder Father, i dropped that "bomb" on my Daddy. I said, well Dad, we should all really be glad that Adam and Eve sinned. Perplexed, he looked at me, and said, Why, what do you mean son?

I said, Well Dad, if they never sinned, we would have NEVER been born. My Father was shocked that i said that. He was not mad, he was not dissapointed. Instead, he was blown away by my 6 year old "logic". It made HIM think, and he told me later in life, that it always stuck with him. He also said, thats when he realized that i was well beyond my years, and that i was thinking more than most biblical, JWs were that were triple my age.

Needless to say, it must have been such an impression, as he is no longer quite convinced that JWs have the "truth" anymore. Now we both have VERY deep conversations, and none of it is tainted thru JW goggles anymore.