@Listener - Exactly, this Elder had a trophy room in his house, with a taxidermied bear, geese, racoons, fox, pheasants, a ram, and all hunted by HIM, not bought. I saw this room personally, with my own eyes. Now dont get me wrong, perhaps many of those animals were hunted at different times in his life. I do beleive that recently he goes back and forth between being an Elder and not, but he is 100 PERCENT in GOOD standing in the "truth", right now, AND he is 100 PERCENT hunting for sport, RIGHT NOW in his life. I know this for a FACT, he has hunted on MY PROPERTY in UPSTATE NY, SHHHHHHH. HYPOCRITES.
Dunedain
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What's the craziest thing someone INFORMED on you about?
by Londo111 inthe culture of jws as encouraged by the watchtower is one of informing on one another, reporting to either the elders or ones designated head.
whats the wackiest thing that someone reported on you?
im not talking about a black-and-white watchtower rule that would land you in a judicial committee, but some judgmental nonsense that someone thought they should turn you in about?.
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What's the craziest thing someone INFORMED on you about?
by Londo111 inthe culture of jws as encouraged by the watchtower is one of informing on one another, reporting to either the elders or ones designated head.
whats the wackiest thing that someone reported on you?
im not talking about a black-and-white watchtower rule that would land you in a judicial committee, but some judgmental nonsense that someone thought they should turn you in about?.
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Oh, i got another one. Onetime a few of us "brothers" went and played paintball. It was a days outing, we rented the paintball guns, and had fun shooting each other with paint. Somehow it got found out by the elders, and they were "appalled".
We were all spoken to, and told how wrong and bad it was. They actually thought it was so bad, that a "local needs" talk needed to be given about it.
The Elder who gave the talk, was all "fire and brimstone". Saying how it was "warlike", and "unchristian", and Jesus would have NEVER approved. The sheeple in the congregation, were audibally gasping at how horrible it was, and shaking their judgemental heads, back and forth.
The "kicker" to all this, however, is that the Elder who gave that talk, WAS A HUNTER. He owned REAL guns, and hunted for sport, even having an animal trophy room in his home. Btw, we all lived in a borough of NYC, he didnt hunt out of "necessity", just for sport. I could care less about it, its his right, but dont judge 17 year old kids for playing with paintball guns. Do they really think that "alienating" us to the rest of the congregation, thru a talk from the platform, would draw us closer to the fold, IDIOTS.
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What's the craziest thing someone INFORMED on you about?
by Londo111 inthe culture of jws as encouraged by the watchtower is one of informing on one another, reporting to either the elders or ones designated head.
whats the wackiest thing that someone reported on you?
im not talking about a black-and-white watchtower rule that would land you in a judicial committee, but some judgmental nonsense that someone thought they should turn you in about?.
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Dunedain
I remember being "ratted" on by this self-righteous, crazy, pioneer sister. She was in my house to use the bathroom, since her and my Mom were working field service, and our house was in the territory. The door to my room was open, and she was passing by my room, and of course, snooping around, sticking her head inside my room. I had a "fantasy" game set up on the floor. It was kind of like a board game, but the "pieces" were medeival soldiers, dragons, orcs, and stuff like that.
Well, the next meeting i was called in the back by the elders, and accused of "demon worship", and having Satanic "things". Just so you know, this was a board game you could buy in TOYS R US.
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Crazy Study Stories
by dubstepped ini never really had any studies to speak of, but my parents did have many over the years, and every single one of them was batsh!t crazy in some way.
there was one lady we kids affectionately termed "dirty robin" (her name was robin) and yes, she was very dirty.
her kids were filthy and rarely wore clothes.
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Dunedain
@Dubstepped - Yeah, my parents are awesome human beings. They have even tried to apologize for raising me in the "truth", and i told them that i dont regret a thing, its all good. If i could not speak to them or they held the unloving "hard line", maybe i would feel diffrent. But i have a great relationship with them. My father and I have been business partners for over 20 years. Because of them NOT shutting me off, they get to have the wonderful privilege of knowing my 7 year old daughter, and having a relationship with her and my family.
The best is, that a few years ago, the same jerk-off piece of shit Elder who DF'd me, and what a story i could tell about that(another time, maybe), he tried to talk to my father about his relationship with me being DF'd and all, and my Dad told him "where to go". It was awesome.
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Crazy Study Stories
by dubstepped ini never really had any studies to speak of, but my parents did have many over the years, and every single one of them was batsh!t crazy in some way.
there was one lady we kids affectionately termed "dirty robin" (her name was robin) and yes, she was very dirty.
her kids were filthy and rarely wore clothes.
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Dunedain
I remember a few loonies over the years, that were studies of my parents too. A lot of them were just weird people, with odd circumstances. There were many drug users, many "loners" looking for friendships, and some that were "concerned" with the human plight, but were just odd balls.
A lot of times, i would have to deal with these studies children, as i was dragged along to these studies by my parents. Btw, i am not going to make this about how shitty my parents as JW's were for doing this, because i love my parents and have no resentment for what they did, out of love for others, in the past. I am DF'd for almost 20 years and they are BOTH in my life, and talk to me like nothing ever happened. My parents are the old school, who are still in the Borg, but see the hypocrisy and are very much on the fringe and done with the WTS BS, its just they still "love" Jehovah, and i wont judge them, like they NEVER judged me.
Anyway, back to the crazy studies, like i said, i was usually stuck with these crazy peoples, crazy kids. I was a mild tempered, low key kid. Never played rough with my toys, and shit like that. Well to me, these kids were "nuts", lol. I would have to endure being forced to wrestle for my 8 year old life in their rooms, and they were in shorts and a T-shirt, while i had a dress shirt,pants, and tie on, lol. Toys would be "whipped" at my head, markers drawn on my arms, books slammed on my head, lol. To my 8 year old mind, the homes and kids were sceavy, and dirty, and my breath would have to be held.
I remember one house where the kids, who were like 3 and 5 years old, would literally beat up, there almost invalid 80 year old grandfather, and he would have like black eyes and bruises. One study, the husband and wife, must have gotten into domestic violence, during the week, and everytime we would go for the study the HUSBAND would have a new black eye. I remember a 4 year old kid "licking" my mothers arm, while she is "studying" with the kids mother. The study would be like, "OH its ok, he is just playing puppy dog, and wants to lick you", GROSS.
I remember a study that was obssessed with my father. He would call him non-stop, my father would have to go to his house or parked car, and "save" him from a nervous breakdown. He was like suicidal and shit, and would always bug my father in his weekly schemes. My father would find him broken into my Dads car, and just sitting there for hours, before my Father found him. He would say, "I am sorry, i know i shouldnt be here, and have broken into your car, but i missed you, or i need to talk to you".
Crazy stuff folks. I am sure i have more stories, i will think about it. Who knows, maybe i will ask my Dad next time i see him. He prob remembers more than me.
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This newly leaked letter PROVES the WTS are hypocrates and do not speak the truth.
by Dunedain inafter reading this newly leaked letter, something profoundly "hit" me.
myself, being born a "witness", and most of us here, who have learned their teachings for years, know of the "importance" the gb/wts always placed on the watchtower and awake magazines, themselves.. from the magazines inception, from back in probably the 1920's, or somewhere that far back, the wts claimed that the preaching work, and specifically the distribution of these magazines, were a sign of the times, and a fulfilment of bible prophecy in these last days.
they would compare the watchtower magazine to a "stinging scorpion", claiming those magazines fulfilled that verse in revelation.
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Dunedain
TheOldHippie, thanks for a little more info, appreciated. I had figured that when it was said that construction projects were all halted, except up in Warwick, that it included KH's also, but i guess not. The sending of Bethelites to the congregations for witnessing work, has always been. I was in a congregation within driving distance from Brooklyn headquarters, and we always had many Bethelites in the cong and helping in the preaching work, but these changes ARE indeed lay-offs for many brothers in Bethel, i personally know of some affected by these new changes. -
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I cant believe this, its truly unbelievable. Its hard to believe, that some still dont believe, this unbelievably, believable news. Jehovah, unbelievably, blesses his believers, and you can believe that. -
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This newly leaked letter PROVES the WTS are hypocrates and do not speak the truth.
by Dunedain inafter reading this newly leaked letter, something profoundly "hit" me.
myself, being born a "witness", and most of us here, who have learned their teachings for years, know of the "importance" the gb/wts always placed on the watchtower and awake magazines, themselves.. from the magazines inception, from back in probably the 1920's, or somewhere that far back, the wts claimed that the preaching work, and specifically the distribution of these magazines, were a sign of the times, and a fulfilment of bible prophecy in these last days.
they would compare the watchtower magazine to a "stinging scorpion", claiming those magazines fulfilled that verse in revelation.
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Dunedain
How about the fact, that this organization is called - "The Watchtower, bible, and tract society". Yet here, at the 11th hour, at the "end" of the "end", the magazine that is LITERALLY THE NAMESAKE OF THIS ORGANIZATION, is reduced to every OTHER month.
Why, did they use to "Announce Jehovahs Kingdom" via the Watchtower, 4 times a month, but now when the "work" should be at its biggest level yet, are they "Announcing Jehovahs Kindom" only every OTHER month.
Why are they laying off Bethelites, ALL OVER THE WORLD, not just the U.S., but even in the supposed countries that the work is "increasing".
Why have they stopped building Kingdom Halls, and increasing projects.
This is the "LAST DAYS", they have been touting about how they and only they, have been fulfilling bible prophesy with their work, and its increase only means that Jehovah is blessing them and with them. So, does this DECREASE, in ALL aspects of ALL of their work, mean that Jehovah is NO longer blessing them, and with them.
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This newly leaked letter PROVES the WTS are hypocrates and do not speak the truth.
by Dunedain inafter reading this newly leaked letter, something profoundly "hit" me.
myself, being born a "witness", and most of us here, who have learned their teachings for years, know of the "importance" the gb/wts always placed on the watchtower and awake magazines, themselves.. from the magazines inception, from back in probably the 1920's, or somewhere that far back, the wts claimed that the preaching work, and specifically the distribution of these magazines, were a sign of the times, and a fulfilment of bible prophecy in these last days.
they would compare the watchtower magazine to a "stinging scorpion", claiming those magazines fulfilled that verse in revelation.
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After reading this newly leaked letter, something profoundly "hit" me. Myself, being born a "witness", and most of us here, who have learned their teachings for years, know of the "importance" the GB/WTS always placed on the Watchtower and Awake magazines, themselves.
From the magazines inception, from back in probably the 1920's, or somewhere that far back, the WTS claimed that the preaching work, and specifically the distribution of these magazines, were a sign of the times, and a fulfilment of bible prophecy in these last days. They would compare the Watchtower magazine to a "stinging scorpion", claiming those magazines fulfilled that verse in Revelation. The Watchtower magazines were always "trumpeted" as the "mouthpiece" of Jehovah. LITERALLY SAYING IT ANNOUNCED HIS KINGDOM.
Over the years the GB/WTS made great claims about how the magazines themselves continued to increase and increase, in both production, and distribution. Again, this, in their own rhetoric, claimed to prove there authenticity, and "showed" that we were in the last days, and fulfilling bible prophesy, with them doing the preching work, and using the Watchtower magazine as Gods mouthpiece.
With all of these rhetoric, and the emphasis placed on the Watchtower magazines, wouldnt, if we were really in the LAST DAYS, the Watchtower magazines production and distribution BE INCREASING. If the Watchtower mags were specifically to be the "stinging message", from God, to "reveal" the hypocrisy of Christendom, and Gods mouthpiece in these last days, why are they reducing to nearly a fraction of what they were, even just a few years ago.
Have the "scorpions sting" become DULL. Is the scorpions venom, loosing its toxicity. Are the scorpions "dieing", and withering away.
These are the "last days", the work should be increasing 10 fold. The "mouthpiece" that is the Watchtower magazine, should be increasing by leaps and bounds. Why at the "end", right before the big A, are these magazines going from being produced twice a month to once every other month. It disproves, their own false proclamations, that they would be increasing the "work" at the end of days.
Instead, its becoming mor watered down BS.
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Is the WT SLOW-ly Changing the importance of the Door to Door preaching work to something more profitable?
by John Aquila inits been a couple of weeks since a new c.o.
was appointed to the circuit and im starting to hear tidbits of his talks..
one brother told me that in one of his talks he asked the question; .
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Dunedain
Wouldnt it be soooo hypocrytical for them to stop the D2D work, when for YEARS they were claiming that ONLY they followed the model that Jesus set, by sending his disciples 2 by 2 and door to door.
DONT FORGET, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST, SELF PROCLAIMING, "REASONS", THAT THEY CLAIM TO BE THE TRUE RELIGION. The SPECIFIC act of going D2D, and following Jesus SPECIFIC example, of 2 at a door, is their whole foundation.
I would be mind blown, if they stopped that, and it would instantly prove their falshood, to MANY.