@ Freemindfade - I am digging that pic of Lucky Luciano ya got there. He is actually a distant relation of mine(grandmothers cousin). Founding "father" of the Italian/American Cosa nostra, he is. I am born and raised in Brooklyn/Staten island, wink, wink.
Dunedain
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Will Gilead Go Away?
by freemindfade injust a total speculative thought i had.
with branches getting cut, special pioneers getting sacked, and bethel members going byebye, is there a need for gilead still?
(co's are probably on the block too lests be honest).. if they got rid of that i feel that would be huge.
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A simple physical exercise leads to great discovery!
by iconoclastic inwhen i was working in a shipping company, captain invited me to his house for his wedding anniversary.
there i was attracted to his father (aged around 80) who seemed to be very healthy.
with me he became very comfortable, and talkative.
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The 2nd one, seems like it would be too much of a pain in the ass for me to do, and would probably get shitty results. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE -
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Sad Reality...
by JW_Rogue in...is that most jws don't know anything about the financial news that is happening right now.
sure it has trickled down to the elders and those who volunteer for construction but the average jw has no idea.
no one in my hall has said a thing about it.
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Dunedain
JW's are all going to suffer from "perma frost", lol. Its not going to sink in to most of of em. However, remember, this is still fresh news, in fact the letter hasnt even been read to most congs. The news about SP Pioneers, and Bethel layoffs, and construction stopping, and all that, are going to trickle out to the masses. They WILL hear about it. What they DO with it, however, will be another story. -
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Some of these are a bit far fetched. However, i have seen something weird with my own eyes, and ANYONE here can see it too. In the state of Maryland, in the U.S. there is a beach town, called Ocean City, Maryland. For those not familiar, this is on the east coast of America, and there is a huge beach, boardwalk, and summer shore community.
My family, and i would go here every summer for vacation. The boardwalk is huge, and is a typical summer attraction. There are tons of rides, games, food, shops, and all manner of tourist attractions.
One of the bigger attractions on the boardwalk is a "Ripleys, beleive it , or not". For those unfamiliar, "Ripleys" has places all over the country. The "Ripleys" attractions, are usually a museum type, walk thru place, that are full of weird, odd, strange, creepy, and "unbeleivable" items and exhibits. The exhibits can range from weird photos of siamese twins, to a giant boat made of match sticks, to a cast of a deformed skull, or to "art" using burnt pieces of toast to form a picture.
Anyway, to the point. In the "art" section of this "Ripleys", many years ago, my father and i noticed a familiar looking painting. There was an artist who was from Mexico, and the painting of his, that was on display, was considered worthy for "Ripleys", because from a distance the painting appeared to be 1 giant picture of 1 scene. However, upon closer inspection, you realized that the artist actually painted tiny, little scenes and put them all together, so that from a distance they looked like the 1 giant scene. Instead, it was a collection of many, many little scenes, that all "worked" together, to create the main painting.
The interesting thing though, is that this artist, for the smaller little portions of the scene, WAS USING SOME SOCIETY ART. My father, and i, noticed within the picture, MANY scenes from the MY BOOK OF BIBLE STORYS, THE PARADISE BOOK, and others. Off the top off my head, i remember the shark that swallowed Jonah, from the Paradise book was there, a Jesus scene with him on THE STAKE, taken right from WTS literature, and many others.
The artist, must have, a) either beena WTS artist and illustrated for them, OR, b) directly stole the illustrations from the WTS many books. The main point being though, is that the tiny scenes, which combined to form the 1 big scene, was done, obviouslly, in a SUBLIMINAL way. That was the only way to achieve the desired effect, of the "illusion", of it being 1 painting, even though it was many tiny paintings/scenes, instead of one.
It was very strange to me and my Dad, that a painting worthy of "Ripleys", because of its use of ILLUSIONS, and SUBLIMINALLY HIDING scenes within a scene, was FULL of WTS IMAGES.
ANY person reading this now, can go and see this for themselves, hence verifying, what i am saying here. Again, it is at the "Ripleys, beleive it or not" museum, in United States, on the boardwalk in Ocean City, Maryland. Go to the "Ripleys" and in the art section, you will see a painting from a Mexican artist, using WTS illustrations, many INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE, and in a subliminal way of hiding pictures WITHIN pictures, to create an illusion.
Its weird, mind blowing, and a bit disturbing.
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Mass Mailer to Congregations & Branches - Those who can't disassociate
by thedepressedsoul inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491270004/mass-disassociation-pact?size=10&page=15.
the topic above got me thinking.
everyone here can't send a disassociation letter due to family or other reasons.
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Dunedain
@ Bill Covert - Thanks for that further info. If i read your post correctly, you are saying that Merton Campbell was in the service dept at around 2004 to 2007 ish, in Northern California?
He was in my old congregation in NYC, when he was on the service dept, but in Brooklyn bethel headquarters at the time. I hadnt realized that he was sent/moved to California. I myself, had dealings with him over 20 years ago. I was only in my late teens, but had a close relationship with him, due to reasons i wont get into now. He was quite the egomaniac, and very "proud" of his high position. His wife was one of the FAKEST, JUDGEMENTAL, 2 FACED, and GOSSIPING, woman you could ever meet. The type to blow smoke up your ass to your face, and 2 seconds later talk shit about ya, behind your back.
Both, Merton, and his wife Olga, were "buddy, buddy" with my ex-grandmother in law. My ex-grandmother in law, was all into "high society", and the "whos who", of the organization, and living within miles of Brooklyn Bethel, she had access to them. She was a very wealthy woman, and the GB, and Cambells, and other "higher ups", would kiss her ass, and she would line their pockets. They were all on the take, and Merton and Olga Campbell were right in the mix, getting their share.
Anyway, i caught Merton in a real serious lie once. The type that undermines confidence and could break serious trust. It just never set, right with me, but thats the nature of this beast we call the WTS.
I appreciate you confirming for me, please, if he was indeed in Northern California, when you dealt with him, thanks.
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In the news: Warwick gets more money?
by LevelThePlayingField insource:http://www.warwickadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20151001/news01/151009998/warwick-seeks-amendment-to-town-code.
[at the end of the article] does this mean they are getting more money???.
sweeton also sought a resolution to reduce the performance bond from pledged collateral account control agreement with the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. from $22.6 million to $7.3 million and to authorize the release the difference to the organization.. the watchtower bible and tract society jehovah’s witnesses world headquarters is advancing in its new construction.
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Dunedain
This really doesnt mean anything. The bond money was probably just an escrolle account of projected money usage, and put into an account in case any issues happen during consrtuction. The township probably requires a large corporation, like the WTS, who are doing huge amounts of construction in their town, to put this money in the account. Basically, if anything went horribly wrong during construction, say like a bulldozer ripping up a gas line and starting a fire that consumes hundreds of acres of the towns resources, or an ecological contamination to the towns water supply. The money held in escrolle, in this account could then be used to "fix" the problem.
The ammendment to the law in this case, is that instead of the WTS having to put 22 million, or whatever the amount was, they are now allowed to only have to put 7 million in the account. Either way, whether the 22 million or the 7 million is put in, as long as there is no major catastrophe, the WTS would get this money back anyway, after constructions end.
The WTS was probably originally required to put in the first, larger amount of money, but then they bitched, and probably sent letters and filed for an adjustment/ammendment, asking to put in a lesser amount. Maybe claiming that construction was nearing its end, or saying that whatever construction is left is not as huge or expensive as the previous years. The ammendment got passed, but either way the WTS, is just getting there own money back, or not having to put up as much money first, but that they would still get back anyway.
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Has anyone thought of the spin that the "society" will put on bethel layoffs?
by Lied2NoMore infirst, how about a joke?.
what do you call someone who just turned apostate?.
im thinking sometime in the future the society will put a spin on what is happening similar to what has been done in the past.. they will say apostasy once again reared its ugly head in the organization and layoffs was the only way to "cleanse" the organization.. once disgruntled ones begin to use their voice, they will be forced to strike back with some spin to make all those who have the guts to complain look like they were the problem.. good theory huh?.
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Dunedain
I cant see the GB blaming the lay-offs on apostasy. That would imply that if you were laid off, you must have been an apostate, and i just cant see them doing that specifically.
They are gonna spin it, just like they always do, WITH BS. You can already see the double tongued serpent rearing its head. When you cut members of the preaching work, and the literature used in said preaching work, for the supposed reason to further the preaching work. You are speaking with 2 tongues, and the truth is not in you. That is their "spin" right now. Now if many in the R&F start to, logically, question this explanation, especially as time progresses, then i could see them putting a new "spin" out there.
This remains to be seen, but i dont think they will blame apostates, but this org has become very kooky, and eerratic, these past few years, so we still cant put anything past them.
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Anybody have any "REAL" experiences of spirit/demon activity? I'll explain.
by runForever ini know there is a lot of people on here that will say it is pure make believe but i am interested if anybody has had any real concrete things happen such as something moving or something appearing in the mirror etc.. anything just post it up here even if it wasn't much.
please give a little context as to the situation..
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One time, many years ago, i was watching the Shining with my sister. It was the first time either of us had seen it. There is a part in the movie when the story starts focusing on one of the rooms in the giant Hotel, i beleive it was "haunted", or something. Anyway, the camera starts eerily panning down the hallway of the Hotel, passing each door to each room, until finally stopping on the door of the room in question. Now in the movie, the camera starts panning up the door, and stopping to show the veiwer, the room number on the door. Exactly when the room number came into veiw, my sister and i looked at the digital cable box, and the time on the clock, was the same exact number of the room. Right now, i dont remember the exact room number, but for arguments sake, say the room number was 246, well the time on the digital clock was 2:46. My sister and i, were both like, HOLY SHIT, wtf.
Now in NO way, am i saying this was demons, or even anything remotely like that. I just wanted to share this story. Think about the huge coincidence, that my sister and i just happened to put the movie in the VCR, and press play, at the time, that when that exact seen showing the room number wound up coinciding with the exact time on the clock. Crazy, and wierd coincidence.
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The new changes is a clear indication that we are one step closer to the end...
by RobertT18 inthat was today's topic over a group chat of my cong's young jbots.
apparently the rumors are circulating everywhere i go, even people from the spanish congs are talking about it.
what's really sad is that the majority of people are already seeing this as "clear" signs of the end coming.
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Its funny how for YEARS around October the GB, drums up the big A warnings, and then in November they REALLY push the contributions. Like, different ways a "spiritual" person could give more. From leaving the org your pension, to conditional cash donations, to signing over your life savings on your death bed, and the WTS "lovingly" makes it so easy for them to do this, with contact numbers of legal depts that will help with handling their finances.
The ONLY, initial knee, jerk reaction for any who are in the R&F, will be that "ARMAGEDDONS COMING". The facts, for now, prove otherwise. If it was REALLY about the preaching work, then construction and printing, and special pioneers, and missionaries, would be getting increases and MORE favors, NOT getting ERASED.
In a cult, you can only put a positive spin on things that may seem negative. Thats the nature of mind control. The GB has been subtly, and even outrightly, conditioning the R&F, up to this point, to blindly accept this. The emphasis on OBEDIENCE, and that WHATEVER the GB says, even if it makes NO SENSE, was their way of mentally preparing the sheeple to swallow this whole.
The difference here, though, is that these really are big, fundamental changes, and what the GB is taking away, does not match with the reasons they say they are taking it away. As, time progresses, and the reality sets in, i think many are going to, at a minimum, start questioning WTF is going on here.
These are interesting times, my friends.
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Remember when you could wear casual clothes to the congregation book study?
by RULES & REGULATIONS ini would get home from work,eat dinner,shower and put on jeans,a shirt and gym shoes to the book study.
then,one day a letter was read where men would need to wear a suit and tie and the woman would have to wear dresses.
it was stated in a letter that the change was due to, '' giving a better witness to anyone who would watch us walking into our local congregation or a neighbor's house.''.
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I dont ever remember that either. I was born in, in 1975, and my memories from, say 1980 and up, of going to the book studies were always wearing what you wore at the "regular" meetings in the KH. This was in America, NYC area, so i dont know if in other parts of the world or country it was different, but i didnt think so.
Lol, i do remember a study bringing her 8 year old son, to the book study, and he was in nothing but a T-shirt and underwear, lol. He had those tighty, whitey underwear briefs too, not boxers. I remember, i was like 9 or 10 myself, and in a shirt, tie, and dress pants, of course, and heres this kid only a year younger than me, in his underwear. I was like wtf, and i remember he wanted to play after the book study. Somehow, i dont think i wanted to play anything with him. I guess i liked my playmates with pants on, go figure.