Posts by Dunedain

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Does God communicate with humans today?

by deegee in

there seems to be confusion within christianity regarding whether or not god communicates with humans today and if he does, how does he do it?.

- does god still insert thoughts into people's minds today or is that something which he only did in the past?.

- some maintain that god is no longer giving persons dreams/visions or speaking directly to them or sending angels to speak with them today but he will nevertheless insert thoughts into their minds to guide them.

Dunedain

Of course God communicates with humans. He talks to these 7 old guys that live in NY. It is a little weird that God only talks to them, but it just has to be real. Nothing about that seems suspicious at all.

In fact, if it seems CRAZY, and PSYCHOTIC, from a human stand point, we shouldn't question it. We should just simply obey, even if it goes against our instincts, and reason, and appears to be the most absurd thing. I mean we have to do that too, cause those 7 old guys, said this, and God talks to them, and only them. Wow, we are SO LUCKY that we know the ONLY 7 humans that God talks to.

Lol, I was actually cracking up as I typed this.

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JW elder on the street I live in.

by Thisismein1972 in

so just the other day i happened to look out my window to see the cobe and the elder who studied with me on the doors.

it got me thinking.. i remember one day, during my study that he said he loved me.

although he meant this as a "brother" it actually sent me into, what i can only describe as shock and alarm!

Dunedain

I have always said, that the average JW, cares more for a total stranger they meet at the door, than a "weak" one within their own congregation.

When the "love" is fake, which most of the time it is, they don't care for a "weak" one in the congregation, because that "weak" one cant do/give them anything.

What the average JW wants, is accolades, studies, hours, and SUPERFICIAL nonsense, that JW'ism has taught is what is really important.

It is NOT about the person, or human, they are studying with. It is about the time they can count from that person. It is about the "praise" that comes with having a study. It is about being able to put a number 1, under the "study" row on a time card.

If you are a study, or basically a STRANGER, you are "love bombed", and it appears on the surface to be such a loving group of people. However, as you look just beneath the surface, you see something very different, and far uglier. The "candy coating" is covering a rancid, and deep "rot". A "cancer" of evil thrives, just under the skin. All dead, all rotten, all putrid. This "disease" spreads like a "plague", and permeates most in the congregations.

"The stench, and sins, have amassed high into the heavens". Beware those that come with a phony smile, and pat on the back. These ones do not bring "true love", only conditional, false, copies, of what they think love is.

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If anyone claimed that god speaks to them personally.....

by jambon1 in

jw
friends

they'd be viewed as completely mentally ill and laughed at.. so, how do the governing body get away with it?.

Dunedain

This kind of nonsense, is from the top to the bottom, of the Org. The R&F believe the crazy, absurdity, that the old cronies are some how being "spoken" to by the Almighty creator of the universe.

This is accepted too, because it also benefits the men in the congregations, and in turn their wives and families. The elders in every congregation are under the assumption that they too have been put into positions, by God's "holy spirit".

Nobody "bucks" the system, because it benefits, most. It, as we know, gives the GB their "power" over everyone, when you have people convinced that Jehovah is speaking to/thru them. This "power" extends to the elders, CO's, ministerial servants, and all in "power". It is a "head trip" for all involved.

The elders wife, thinks she's special cause her husband is "ordained by God", as an Elder. Little Johnny thinks HIS Daddy is special, cause HIS daddys an elder. So, even those that aren't directly given this "power", still benefit from the ILLUSION that it exists.

This is partly, why this ILLUSION is accepted, and in most cases, cultivated, by the R&F. So, if its accepted by the ones at the "bottom", it is definitely accepted for, and by, the "gods" at the top, who rule from their iron thrones in NY.

This whole religion/cult, is based on ILLUSIONS. This whole cult, is based on INVISIBLE power. This has been from the beginning, with Christs invisible presence. It continues now to the GB, being directed by god, INVISIBLLY behind the scenes.

It is ALL, complete and utter, BS.

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Lots of weirdos among the jw's

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

i found this little jem this morning .

it's a little dated but describes the self-proclaimed jesus of nazareth by the name of a.j miller.

he was raised in the jw religion and was also an elder and pioneer.

Dunedain

Lol.

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How the Present G.B. Deceives its Followers/Readers....................

by The Searcher in

............into believing that inferred "statements" are actual facts, while never stating anything!

w07 1/1 p. 28 pars.

11,12 "the first resurrection"—now under way!

Dunedain

@ The Searcher - Really good info, you put up here. When you read it with a "clear", un indoctrinated mind, you realize how much BS they spew.

The sick thing about this, is that you just put up a small, little, snip it, of a paragraph or two. Literally EVERYTHING they have been printing for the past 100 years, has been double talk, like this. This is not some isolated case, or article,

The WTBS's CORE doctrines are, and have been, presented, and explained, in this way. Using "slick" words, and "maybes", never commiting to anything. It is pure, and utter rubbish. The GB should be ashamed of themselves. They KNOW they are NOT being divinely directed, yet they still deceive, and without any remorse.

They are snakes that speak with two tongues, and poison is all they spew. Their sins have amassed high up into the heavens, indeed.

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The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.

by SadElder in

the missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.

no words or score on the jw page yet.

can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.

Dunedain

I thought god only had one son? Wasn't it that Jesus dude?

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Jehovah's Witnesses - a religion of displaced people?

by slimboyfat in

i've had a theory for a long time that jws historically have appealed to people who have been displaced or find themselves in a new environment away from family and friends.

i also read an article recently that suggested that internal migration in italy was a big boost for jw growth.

more generally it has long been theorised that new religious movements are a phenomenon particularly associated with disruptive features of modernity, including the hyper-mobility of people in the modern age.

Dunedain

This makes perfect sense. The WTBS bull crap will appeal to people that are being displaced, or going thru any turmoil.

When people are new to an area, or forced to go somewhere that they have no friends and family, they may be desperate to meet new people. They may be looking for friends, or a new social group. What easier than having someone show up at your door, and invite you to a "meeting". Once they go, they are love bombed, and coddled.

Then they have the one on one with their study conductor. The study conductor is always looked at as a "friend", and vice versa. This is just the amount of social contact they may need, to fulfil their loneliness, and lack of family close by.

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The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.

by SadElder in

the missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.

no words or score on the jw page yet.

can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.

Dunedain

Man, those older, and current, songs from the songbook, are some of the worst music ever written, lol. As a kid in the hall, I used to hate singing those horrible songs.

My best friend in the hall at that time, used to pretend he was SOOO into the songs when he sung them. He would sing overly loud, and make these exaggerated facial expressions, like he was doing a cheesy music video.

It was so funny, and whenever any of us teenagers would catch a glimpse of it, you would get the laughs that you cant control.

One time the brother that was on the stage observed him making all the weird faces, and singing like he was really into the song, and he couldn't help laughing too. He probably could tell that he was making a mockery of the whole thing, lol.

Most of the other JW's, however, thought that my buddy was SOOO spiritual, as he sang soo loud, and made his cheesy expressions. That made it even more hysterical at the end of the day, lol. He would even make his older brother bust out laughing during the prayer, too. Good times, good times.

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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

by LevelThePlayingField in

i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

Dunedain

You are treading on dangerous ground my friend. The best advice I could give you, and as many others here have said, you should try to AVOID it.

While it IS noble, and courageous, to want to show them the U.N. issue, they will NOT look at it that way. You will not be among listening ears. They, most likely, already have a pre-conceived notion that you are leaning towards doubting "Mother", and this they cannot accept.

The fact that it is ALREADY happening with at least 2 Elders, lets you know that there is more to it. They are coming "fully armed", ready for a "fight". There will be NOTHING that you can say, that will make them see your points, or "enlighten" them in any way.

As others have mentioned, and I feel is your BEST option, is to say, "Oh its not really a big deal to me, and honestly I don't know why I have to speak to more than one Elder about this". Spin it around on them, and say "Wow, now YOU are making me think there REALLY is something going on concerning the U.N, I didn't think it was that serious". Say, "in fact I did a little research, and prayed to Jehovah about it, and I found out it really was NOT that big of a deal". Say, " if you want to discuss it ONE on ONE, that's cool, but it really doesn't bother me now, thanks anyway".

Now I completely understand that YOU do not feel that way, and it IS INDEED a VERY big deal, but you need to protect yourself, for the sake of your Wife. Do not think that you might be "awakening" them, and that by you doing this, it will wake up everyone to TTATT. As awesome as that would be, it just wont be the case here. Especially with these "company men".

Protect yourself, and your marriage, THAT is the most important thing. Down play it, and do damage control NOW, to get yourself out of this situation. The best thing would be to NOT be in front of 2 or 3 Elders, and discussing this. You do NOT want that.

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Evolution Gap - Where's the Fur?

by shadow in

evolution paints human ancestors covered with fur.

fur has several benefits as stated by britannica "the pelts of fur-bearing animals are called true furs when they consist of two elements: a dense undercoat, called ground hair, and longer hairs, extending beyond that layer, called guard hair.

the principal function of ground hair is to maintain the animal’s body temperature; that of guard hair is to protect the underlying fur and skin and to shed rain or snow.".

Dunedain

Come to one of my Italian family reunions, and you will see the fur covering many hominids, both male and female.