the older i get, the more i appreciate serenity and tranquiity.
we had persons that believed they were always being victimized. Then there were the "cause finders", ones who always looked for a cause to rally around, as in pointing how Sister Deprived never gets attention and the elders aren't doing their job so they become the congregation's moral guardians......What was your Hall like????
Exactly my current congregation. Its as if you are secretly in my cong Minimus.
(john 2:18-22) 18 therefore, in answer, the jews said to him: "what sign have you to show us, since you are doing these things?
" 19 in answer jesus said to them: "break down this temple, and in three days i will raise it up.
" 20 therefore the jews said: "this temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?
Thanks for all of your comments. What this tells me is that there are soooo many opinions on what the bible means and JWs just pick one and go with it. How can we trust anything people say about the bible then if just about anyone can attempt to spin it towards their point of view... scary.
my parents told me that the do has advised the cong that it's going to close due to there not being enough publishers in it (why didn't he just say people .
it is a very small cong with about 35 people in it but they have enough elders and everyone was happy being in it.
apart from being dubs they actually are a genuinely nice bunch of people and i feel a bit sorry for them having to get split up against their wishes.. the hall is split into two congs, with the other half having about 140 publishers, and i asked why they didn't just ask some from the other half to support theirs.
From what I am hearing from some individuals who are in the "know" this type of thing is happenening more and more frequently than before. Why cant the WT just admit that the ranks are shrinking.
(john 2:18-22) 18 therefore, in answer, the jews said to him: "what sign have you to show us, since you are doing these things?
" 19 in answer jesus said to them: "break down this temple, and in three days i will raise it up.
" 20 therefore the jews said: "this temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?
(John 2:18-22) 18 Therefore, in answer, the Jews said to him: "What sign have you to show us, since you are doing these things?" 19 In answer Jesus said to them: "Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 Therefore the Jews said: "This temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?" 21 But he was talking about the temple of his body. 22 When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples called to mind that he used to say this; and they believed the Scripture and the saying that Jesus said.
Not that I believe in the trinity persay...but anyone recall how they wormed around this one? I dont have the WT library at work and I am just curious.
a very convincing and timely demonstration on the dangers of the internet!
http://www.box.net/public/j2uoneqjfe.
if you can't get this to run, i will be more than happy to pm it to you if you can stomach it.
Thats pretty much how that "faith strengthening" demo was done at our DC in June but with less theatrics though.
just heard his interview on conan o'brien... .
his father was a jw..mother was a baptist.. .
thought it was hilarious...his dad told him it would explode if he touched it>
He was in a friend of mines, roommates congregation in Manhattan, not sure if he still is or not. If I recall he also was an MS??
the mrs. and i were invited to a "gathering" this weekend.
was just supposed to be some friends getting together for some food and fellowship.
when we arrived, there were a bunch of jw's in the back yard(50 to 100) and the music was pumping loud(not that i minded{smile}).
I'll tell ya, since I left the dubs I can't find one good party to attend anymore. Now we get invited over people's houses and there is no cursing, booze, flirting with others mates, etc. It's so WHOLESOME! WEIRD
Freedomlover I also find this to be the case, wierd isnt it? The cliche' is so true "these worldly people are nicer than some JWs I know" The wife and I have been starting to develop friendships outside the cong. This may be a good setup for our eventual, hopefully together, exit!
what are some of your fav quotes from movies???.
i love the line in face off "oh eve i hate to see you go but i love to watch you leave".
and the one in the rock " you want me to stick this in my heart are you f#$%ing nuts".
Vader: "obiwan never told you what happened to your father..."
Luke: "he told me enough...he told me you killed him"
Vader: "No I AM your father"
I remember first seeing that when I was like 10 and freaking out!
i bet most people did not.
i think nearly everyone counted time spent on breaks.
or sitting in the car for an hour and a half while the elders did a "shepherding" call.
Its too bad that the bible nowhere indicates that you can "buy" life from god by doing all these works. Such a waste of time. If we had to work for every "free gift" that was offered to us it wouldnt be a gift would it......its amazing to me how the WT can mess up such basic and obvious bible teaching. Whats more amazing is that most of us bought it too, hook, line and sinker!
weren't they sickening??
always trying to curry favor with the elders and circuit overseers.
most of those that could never quite make the grade couldn't for a reason.
So many of those... one in my cong now actually sent a younger MS, friend of his, to ask me why he wasnt appointed yet. Since I am still a "closet" apostate I told him "he isnt one for things like this, sending you to ask instead of asking himself" He ran back w. his tail between his legs. Idiots!
