Oh I didn't expect any responses because I know there's been 750 sparlock threads. I had to vent to someone, who better than you all. I am still in because of the reasons stated above, family...family..FAMILY! I try not to think about it and keep out of other jdubs business as much as possible while being kind and nice. What else can I do. As I get older, hopefullt I can use age/ilness to ditch the elder mantle. Until then I deal with a lot of bullshit. I will definitely let people know the reaction to sparlock in my cong.. but seriously OMG.
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omg..lol
by XBEHERE ini resisted all these weeks and finally i watched the clip of the new video: "obey jehovah" lol... are the really fracking serious with this?
the snake holding the sparlock toy?
rotfl.... i am embarrassed to still be a jw.
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omg..lol
by XBEHERE ini resisted all these weeks and finally i watched the clip of the new video: "obey jehovah" lol... are the really fracking serious with this?
the snake holding the sparlock toy?
rotfl.... i am embarrassed to still be a jw.
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I resisted all these weeks and finally I watched the clip of the new video: "Obey Jehovah" lol... are the really fracking serious with this? The snake holding the sparlock toy? rotfl.... I am embarrassed to still be a JW. I really don't know how I am going to keep a straight face while speaking to other witnesses about this. OMG!
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What Do Jehovah's Witnesses Have Going For Them?
by minimus inthere must be a reason jws stay or people join..
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To answer the question- Absolutely nothing! However the reason I stay is because I do not want to lose my entire (immediate, extended, wife, kids and her immediate and extended) family. Leaving would cause extreme stress in my marriage and with my kids and would likely end in divorce because of the added stress. So I am choosing to take the stress of knowing its all bullshit on my shoulders instead of destroying my family.
I know many of you do not agree and wonder how I can tolerate it, well I am still an elder and I just stay calm, cool. I dont volunteer for anything but neither do I turn down assignments. I dont sit on those dreadful judicial committee's anymore. I say very, very little during elders meetings. I am nice and kind to everyone and do not attract attention to myself in any way, shape or form.
10+ years ago I was an elder cylon...robotic, mother asks me to jump I ask how high type of person. Assembly parts, Secretary and eventually PO (now COBE), special committees, called by CO's to discuss issues, etc, etc. It has taken me a decade to fade away from all of that.
Sometimes it gets to me and I get really down, and sometimes watching all the politicking and ass kissing going on constantly makes me want to vomit but I think of my family.... this is the main hold they have on people. If my wife ever comes up to me and expresses doubts I will leave skid marks in the kingdom hall carpet.
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I know.. but its the cult paranoia you know. They really suck...really they do
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lol oops. nice Avatar btw. I found out about this link several weeks ago but feared posting it and getting caught so waited until they announced it on service meeting.
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The UN Debacle, Disfellowshipping Policies, Child Abuse Cases---Will ANYTHING Ever Sway A JW From "The Truth"?
by minimus ini wonder..
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Not unless the person's entire family agrees to leave with them. Fear of shunning is the best tool the WT has to keep people in. Its keeping me in.....
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Watchtower's April 9 BOE Confidentiality Letter - Child Abuse - Did Jane Doe lawsuit play a major part?
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'd bet my left.... pinky toe that the wt's monster 4/9 confidentiality letter was put out as a direct result of the jane doe/candace vs wt case as they were preparing to go to trial.
there had already been a year of legal proceedings - surely the wt knew the shit was about to hit the fan.. thanks goes to atlantis for posting the boe letters originally as pdfs.
the person that a restraining order is a personal legal matter that does not involve the congregation.. thereafter, the elders should call the legal department immediately for direction..
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The problem is that we are not all privy to the verbal conversations between the legal dept. and any elders. Thats why I appreciated in that Dateline special that Bill Bowen taped a conversation with Legal. It was very telling in that conversation on how the WTS really feels..."I,d leave it in Jehovah's hands." Are they focking kidding! Thats the problem its what is verbally stated to the elders which doesnt always coincide with what is written. So it matters very little what all these letters are saying.
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Those who WERE or ARE Elders (Re: Molestation Coverup)
by dontplaceliterature ini'd like to hear from those who are currently elders or were formerly elders on your honest feelings about the charges brought against the society and their general policy in handling these matters.
do you think that the society handles child abuse accusations fairly?
or, do you think their policy is abusive?
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The Dateline program exposing the abuse problem in the WT was what caused me to start questioning the org. I did research since I was(am) an elder back then and I feel that the WT tries to punish the pedophiles in their own system. They do not want it going outside of the judicial setting. The problem with this is that the elders are told not to inform anyone of the potential danger. In fact I am privy to a real situation in which a friend of mine was almost removed as an elder in his congregation because he informed an MS that a certain brother was indeed a pedophile and to watch him around kids. Yes that really happened.
The WT org is wrong, horribly wrong about this issue because as we all know the recidivism rates for pedophilia are pretty much 100%. To add to that is the fact that pedophilia is a crime. Crime should always be reported period. If the elders knew that someone confessed to murder I am fairly certain that they would be calling the police. Yes Barbara Anderson was right the whole time as was Bill Bowen and now the WT will have to pay. Let the lawsuits commence. The wtbs is repugnant for allowing this situation to develop. Terrible.
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Does anyone know where, or what happened to Fred and April Fredean? They where our old circuit overseers in Chicago in the sixties and I was friends when I was at bethel with them.
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Still at Bethel the last I heard.