Yes, it is worse if you take the lead and teach this shit to others when YOU don't believe it, yourself!!!
ouch min, that hit home. I am a douche I know. Sorry..
they will continue being faithful jws.
they will accept whatever is spoon fed to them.
they can be told they have the "truth" and in one day, realize everything they believed in wasn't true after all!.
Yes, it is worse if you take the lead and teach this shit to others when YOU don't believe it, yourself!!!
ouch min, that hit home. I am a douche I know. Sorry..
i need a break from the jw-xmas noo-lite stuff ....... .
today my crush was on tv and a quick blush came to my face as i remembered all the silliness i did to run into him when he was attending jr. college near my grandparents....sigh.... so who was yours?
did your parents highly discourage/disapprove such?.
Phoebe Cates
in the the early 1970's, i used to enjoy going to assemblies, conventions and hear special talks given by bethel heavies.. in those days, we were believers and we applied ourselves as "ministers" with pride.. once the "end" was obviously not within our "generation", many of us started losing interest.. we started to think more critically.
it took a long time but once you start recognizing the bullsh*t, it's hard to stay in and truly believe at the same time.. .
Primarily that the organization has policies in place that potentially allows pedophiles free to rape again. Prior to that I started to feel that the entire elder arrangement was a sham and that the position as elder was gained basically by who liked you the best and who's ass you rimmed. Such bull-f*c*ing-shit!
so, we had our new co (who actually seemed nice and somewhat personable in his own way.).
he gave a talk titled something like "do we sacrifice to jehovah?
"(can't remember the exact title.
Typical. Our CO also goes around begging for $$ for the mighty WTS while he and his wife each tote around iPhones and iPads and drive a new car every 3 years, fully paid for. Gotta love the WTB&TS
jwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
Recovery I have a question: Do the elders in your congregation know that you read and post on this site? Mine do not because I do not think that I will benefit my family by exposing myself. Why don't you sit with your group overseer and go over some of your concerns.
Perhaps he can even instruct you on how you "..ought to give an answer" in defense of the truth here on JW.net
when you were active jws did you ever give to charities?
anyone else you know in the cong.
as for me, i do give on occasion and when i am able to.
When you were active JWs did you ever give to charities? Anyone else you know in the cong. do it?
As for me, I do give on occasion and when I am able to. Red Cross, PBA, Local Firehouse, even Salvation Army during Christmas..lol
some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.
but even then i did not give many details about myself.
i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.
Welcome..back I guess. Enjoyed your story, I too was "happy" in the truth until I realized that being an elder was all political and the WTS shielded filthy pedophiles. I look forward to hearing more.
i wanted to get a list of arguments that illustrate how the watchtower society is or isn't following 1st century christianity today.
thanks again everyone!.
For the record I have been a pioneer for many years. And there is no "secret information" given to pioneers or elders. It can all be found in various WT publications.
besides the policy letters that instruct elders to call the legal dept. in all cases of pedophilia. I don't see that backed up in the bible and most R&F are not aware of that policy.
i wanted to get a list of arguments that illustrate how the watchtower society is or isn't following 1st century christianity today.
thanks again everyone!.
That precahing the good news is an absolute requirement for all christians and your activity must be recorded on a publishers record card for the elders too look at and judge your spirituality. Show me in the bible where either of those things are necessary to gain salvation.
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even if they are conditional friends
This is so true, and if you are an elder even more so. Kiss ass brothers and MS's love to be your "friend" until they leech on to a more prominent elder who can actually help then "reach out" lol. such bullshit.