Posts by XBEHERE

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The same month I lost my faith in God was when I was appointed an elder

by Most Noble in

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my appointment came just when i started having mixed feelings about the existence of god and wt's legitimacy.

isn't it ironic?.

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XBEHERE

I am still an elder and I have been posting here for a decade. Holy spirit? lol.... are you fracking kidding. Sure they pretend to base it on the scriptural requirements but if you want to be an elder then really it boils down to:

Who you know- especially if you have a relative on the body already
Who's ass you kiss- CO's, CBOE's (yes they are still in charge despite what the letters and literature says) if you charm the COBOE and his core voting group on the body then you are in
How willing you are to do shit - so many brothers nowdays especially have no interest in being responsible for anyone or anything..lazy

Did I miss anything?

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Are The Governing Body Being Set Up To Take A Fall?

by DT in

the governing body's decision to declare themselves the faithful and discreet slave appears pretty arrogant and presumptuous.

since most of us regard the governing body as arrogant and presumptuous, it's easy to conclude that is the reason that they did this.. what if something else is going on?.

remember when steven unthank was able to get the faithful and discreet slave charged in australia for failing to comply with the working with children act?

XBEHERE

Interesting idea but the WTBTS is very calculated, I am sure there is a specific reason why this was done. I think the October 1 BOE is also a calculated response to the conti case. More will be revealed with time I am sure. These people do nothing without legal consultation. I tend to agree with Rubadub, it seems that they are moving the doctrinal responsibility back to the GB/FDS to isolate the corporation i.e. $$$$ from the policy makers. I have never heard of anyone suing the College of Cardinals.

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Witness Speak: the worst of collection

by grumblecakes in

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so we all know the jw vocabulary is a weird one.

what words or phrases bugged you the most?.

a few of mine:.

XBEHERE

maybe this was more in the northeast area of the U.S. when I was there but:

"lets see further what we can gleen from these verses.."

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Well, I talked with two active JWs about the latest understanding of the F&DS.

by Theocratic Sedition in

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i know a brother who went to the most recent annual meeting.

older brother, non-annointed, elder, wife a pioneer, and overall a pretty good dude.

he let me take a peak at the new awake dropping in 2013, which by the way i have to give credit where it's due as i like the new 16 page format.

XBEHERE

I agree. It is actually more of a big deal for xjws who are nit picking on every shitty word being excreted from the FDS asses. Not saying that I do not enjoy the nit picking because I do, but that is the truth. Most witnesses today barely study the crap from the FDS, barely read their bibles anymore, and go through the motions in their worship.

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We will decide who is a predator! New Watchtower Instructions to Elders on Child Abuse

by Jaime l de Aragon in

must read on jehovahs witnesses watchtower arrogance in failure to warn of congregation pedophiles.. http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-will-decide-who-is-a-predator-new-watchtower-instructions-to-elders-on-child-abuse?fb_action_ids=10151270345663993&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582.

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XBEHERE

You know it when the elders read this letter, they heaved a collective sign of relief because the WT took the decision-making out of their hands and they can sleep better at night knowing that the liability buck stops at WT headquarters and not with them.

While I will agree with the statment above and others on this thread, I think that one of the reasons that the WT is making this a policy to eliminate the possibility of any reporting to any authorities. Pretty much they are saying if any of you elders want to be preumptuous and report this to the police then you will be sanctioned because it is the branch that decides if someone is a molester/pedophile and not you. The legal and service departments at Bethel know that there are many "rogue elders" out there who could possibly ignore them and go directly to the police.

This is a direct threat to these elders that you will be dealt with if you do. Its part of their pyschological terror program and yes many elders will not go with their conscience and report abuse to police. Why go through that, why put your family through that. You could be deleted or worse disfellowshipped for brazen conduct.

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"Friends"

by XBEHERE in

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what can you say about the conditional friendships that being a jehovah's witness promotes?

i am still active and there are many who sh*t on me and tossed me aside because of my attitude change.

to me it just seems too easy for these people to turn on and off affection.

XBEHERE

So annoying isnt it. These people treat you different if you miss too many meetings or don't go out in service every week. God forbid you say something questionable about the org... you will be labeled a "bad attitude" like I obviously have been.

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"Friends"

by XBEHERE in

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what can you say about the conditional friendships that being a jehovah's witness promotes?

i am still active and there are many who sh*t on me and tossed me aside because of my attitude change.

to me it just seems too easy for these people to turn on and off affection.

XBEHERE

What can you say about the conditional friendships that being a Jehovah's Witness promotes? I am still active and there are many who sh*t on me and tossed me aside because of my attitude change. To me it just seems too easy for these people to turn on and off affection. It really makes me believe that its all forced.

The WT promotes agape love (based on principle) not the real affectionate, care and love (philia). So with agape I guess they understand that to mean if you dont continue to follow bible (FDS) principles then JWs are allowed to treat you different or cut you off. It is really hypocritical and disgusting that they claim that they show real concern for each other when in reality its a coerced, forced "love" based on their principles.

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DON'T CARE When They Are Lied To!

by minimus in

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they will continue being faithful jws.

they will accept whatever is spoon fed to them.

they can be told they have the "truth" and in one day, realize everything they believed in wasn't true after all!.

XBEHERE

Yes, it is worse if you take the lead and teach this shit to others when YOU don't believe it, yourself!!!

ouch min, that hit home. I am a douche I know. Sorry..

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Fluff: Which Actor/Actress did you crush on secretly as a JW?

by yknot in

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i need a break from the jw-xmas noo-lite stuff ....... .

today my crush was on tv and a quick blush came to my face as i remembered all the silliness i did to run into him when he was attending jr. college near my grandparents....sigh.... so who was yours?

did your parents highly discourage/disapprove such?.

XBEHERE

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What Made You Question "The Truth"?

by minimus in

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in the the early 1970's, i used to enjoy going to assemblies, conventions and hear special talks given by bethel heavies.. in those days, we were believers and we applied ourselves as "ministers" with pride.. once the "end" was obviously not within our "generation", many of us started losing interest.. we started to think more critically.

it took a long time but once you start recognizing the bullsh*t, it's hard to stay in and truly believe at the same time.. .

XBEHERE

Primarily that the organization has policies in place that potentially allows pedophiles free to rape again. Prior to that I started to feel that the entire elder arrangement was a sham and that the position as elder was gained basically by who liked you the best and who's ass you rimmed. Such bull-f*c*ing-shit!