Active, Elder. Pretending (some would say being a hypocrite) for family. I do the bare minimum that I can get away with without "..2 elders sitting down with me to see how I am doing"
XBEHERE
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What Status are you? Ex JW, Inactive, elder, MS...etc
by enigma1863 ini am technically inactive.
i was just curious if there are many people on the inside.
are there any within bethel itself?
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Education
by XBEHERE inhow easily one might start to minimize the wise,.
balanced advice from the faithful and discreet slave class about additional education and start to miss meetings!
in this area, some have gradually been molded by the worldsreasoningsand views.(eph.
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How easily one might start to minimize the wise,
balanced advice from the faithful and discreet slave class about additional education and start to miss meetings! In this area, some have gradually been molded by the world’sreasoningsand views.(Eph. 2:2, 3) TheBibleapt- ly warns us: “Don’t let the world around you squeeze you into its own mould.”—Rom.12:2, Phillips.From the Jeremiah book from the bible study last week paragraph 7, What balanced viewpoint? They make a statement that the F&DS has a WISE, BALANCED viewpoint of additional education but they dont say what it is. In fact they give a decidely, one-sided viewpoint instead. You WILL miss meetings and you WILL get moulded by the world. They are desperately trying to say dont go to college but for some reason dont come outright and just say it. cowardice
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2+2=5 cited this fact about the shrinking amount of elders. Perhaps the coming implosion?
by wha happened? inat the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.
there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.
there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.
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The last KM school I attended (end of 2012) the average age of the elders looked to be in the 40's-50's with many also in their 30's. I'd say over the next 10-20 years or so I have no idea where the next crop will be coming from. In my there are 11 elders and 4 ministerial servants. When I was growing up that number was reversed.
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Do JWs Really Still care about the "Truth"?
by XBEHERE ini often read posts on here citing some km school or wt article and the comment that "now they are tightening their grip" or "they will now go after faders" etc, etc.
my perception is that the vast majority of jws, including the elders, are suffering from apathy and fatigue.
most simply don't care anymore.
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I often read posts on here citing some km school or WT article and the comment that "now they are tightening their grip" or "they will now go after faders" etc, etc.
My perception is that the vast majority of JWs, including the elders, are suffering from apathy and fatigue. Most simply don't care anymore. My question is am I wrong? Do you really feel like the WTS has any hope of "tightening their grip" to keep people in? Do you really think that JWs today are the same as they were in the 70's, 80's, and early (pre-1995) 90's?
In my congregation the meetings start with 25 people and 15-30 minutes later another 40-50 come in. Publishers turn down shepherding calls because they have no time, or some other excuse. Support for service on Saturdays is terrible with all groups in 4 different locations combined averaging about 25-30 out, brothers don't really reach out anymore. Nobody cares about the smaller magazines, The FDS is now only the GB wow big deal. Basically all these things that people comment on here and say that the GB is tightening down, etc. seems to have no effect on them.
Now I am in a typical, WASPY, eastern U.S. congregation so maybe thats just how things seem in my area. For those if you who still attend or associate with those that do what is it like in your area? Do JWs still care?
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What Was Your "Status" Within The Organization?
by minimus inwere you a sought after associate?.
were you often invisible?.
did other witnesses view you as "exemplary"?.
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used to be the "go to elder" oh **** will do it just ask him. Oh **** is my favorite elder, I only go to him. **** knows what the right thing to do is.
Since I have asked to be taken off WT conducting, public talks, and conducting bible studies as well as not being a group overseer apparently I have been "demonized" to the publishers by the other elders. Which I can't figure out because they aren't supposed to gossip or betray confidence right?!?!? lol. Anyway IDGS anyway this religion sucks and is full of bs.
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Post KM Elder School, you may see elders become a little nosier or nebby than usual.
by Theocratic Sedition inafter reading through onedayillbefree's thread about being taken into the back room and asked inappropriate questions, i was reminded about a part done at the km school.
one of the common themes throughout the one day school was viewing things the way god sees them and how doing so will require that elders develope insight.
they defined insight as, evaluating individual aspects in light of others, or getting & understanding facts and how all relate to one another.. next, they gave specific examples where an elder will need insight in order to assist wayward sheep.
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yes, exactly what Sir82 said. The religion is imploding from the inside out, nobody reaching out anymore. Back in the day there were 5-6 elders and 10 ms's, now ms's are scarce and elders are growing more and more apathetic as the R&F do less and respect them less.
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Post KM Elder School, you may see elders become a little nosier or nebby than usual.
by Theocratic Sedition inafter reading through onedayillbefree's thread about being taken into the back room and asked inappropriate questions, i was reminded about a part done at the km school.
one of the common themes throughout the one day school was viewing things the way god sees them and how doing so will require that elders develope insight.
they defined insight as, evaluating individual aspects in light of others, or getting & understanding facts and how all relate to one another.. next, they gave specific examples where an elder will need insight in order to assist wayward sheep.
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I don't think most elders will even give a shit about that example from this years "special" km school.
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BOE call MS for meeting - anything to do with Elders School?
by konceptual99 inlast night all us servants were called to an important and critical meeting next week.
no one would give me a heads up on it.
our boe went to their secret squirrel school on boxing day last week so i can only assume its related to that.
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Nothing at recent km/elder schools that would facilitate a meeting like that. Probably as mentioned above: mic holders, readers, etc. Same sh*t different day.
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Are JW'S "hated" in all the world? Or...are they considered IRRELEVANT?
by Terry inwathctower 90/1/1 p. 12 par.
8 not ashamed of the good news .
while it is true that jehovahs witnesses are hated and opposed in all the nations of the earth, this is in fulfillment of what was foretold to be an identifying mark of genuine worshipers of the one living and true god.
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irrelevant to most except for those who have family or friends involved in it. then it becomes all consuming.
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Your earliest doubt?
by Apognophos inthis might be an unfair question for those who have been out of the organization for decades, but i'm wondering if any of you remember your earliest doubt -- maybe something odd that occurred to you as a kid (if you were a jw then).
please try to limit to two doubts at the most :-).
i think my first "doubt" was simply realizing that at the time of the flood, every animal that wasn't in the ark died (well, besides the fish, supposedly).
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Mine started when I was a child and realised that according to the book of bible stories sodom was destroyed because of all the sodomy but having sex with your dad is cool.
lol. that is so true, not only incest but getting your father drunk so you can climb on his erect penis.... yikes. Why on earth would that be even included in the bible.