Posts by XBEHERE

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calling all elders - what goes on at the week long elders school?

by not bitter in

my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.

dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.

what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.

XBEHERE

Well unlike some here who went to elder schools in the 70's-80's the more very recent week long schools focus on the spirituality of the elders themselves (their words not mine).

I am sure back in the day they focused more on the actual roles of elders being that the arrangement as we know it today just started. Add to that the "Apostate" witch hunts of the 80's. By the time I started to serve in the 1990's it must have been toned down. The regular 2 1/2 day Km schools still focus on the Flock book and how to handle wrong doing, etc. but this passed 1 week long one was different. I mean it was still a waste of time, just not as bad at least to me.

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calling all elders - what goes on at the week long elders school?

by not bitter in

my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.

dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.

what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.

XBEHERE

The one I went to last year did not go too deep into roles of each elder, judicial procedures, etc. It was different, dare I say it, more bible educative....

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What the heck is a Bethel Elder?

by Julia Orwell in

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how is he different to a normal elder?

is he ranked higher than a normal elder?

what does he actually do?.

XBEHERE

Done away with circa late 90's? ?

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calling all elders - what goes on at the week long elders school?

by not bitter in

my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.

dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.

what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.

XBEHERE

Went last year. To be completely honest it wasnt a total waste of time. I know that sounds wierd but the main instructor was good at applying bible principles and he really wasn't doing a Watchtower comercial the whole time. Maybe he's a closet apostate...who knows.

That being said, the other instructor, was a total company man. Boring, do more, preach more, follow the slave, and then take care of your family. Oh and if you dont take care of your family we will delete you and you will be a leper in your congregation.

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Was the TM School really any good ?

by Phizzy in

many of us were members of the theocratic ministry school for many years.

some say it helped them with public speaking, and maybe it did for some.. but, when you look back at the quality of student it turned out, was it really any good ?.

most elders are crap public speakers, most r&f bros are crap at reading aloud, most jw's are crap at selling their religion at the door, most jw's have scant real knowledge of the bible.. there are reasons for this, quite often the tms overeer hasn't a clue how to teach a person to progress.

XBEHERE

no

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Here's what I learned at our DC.....

by sir82 in

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when people say "armageddon may come, but not in my lifetime", that is a "satanic inspired error".. how do you overcome it?.

why, looking a it that way, adam's rebellion was less than a week ago!

jesus was here on earth just the day before yesterday!

XBEHERE

I learned how to sleep with my eyelids still open. Very difficult but can be done if you completely tune out and look straight ahead.

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Do JW's even read the Watchtower?

by zound in

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i know i rarely if ever read the magazines that i used to promote and place with householders (besides the watchtower study).

hypocritical no?.

XBEHERE

Most speed read and underline the 6th grade reading level, spoon fed answers for the study edition either on Saturday evening or Sunday morning depending on what time their meeting is.

Even when I believed I did not read all of the articles.

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

XBEHERE

BackSeat

Seniority was based on total years spent in some type of full time service. Pioneering, Bethel Service, Missionary, Circuit Work, etc.

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

XBEHERE

Brooklyn 89-92

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Former Long Time Elder - Judicial Committees

by James Jackson in

when i first was appointed as an elder, i could not wait to be on a judicial committee.

it semed like most hearings invovled middle age men and women cheating on their mates because either they had married early or felt that were being neglected by their mate.

most times i felt i need to take a long hot shower after a hearing.. the toughest part was seeing these sweet young children grow up in "the truth", and now you are about to judge their future based on their repentance.

XBEHERE

Regretfully, I too, have been a party to Df'ings. I am sick to my stomach that I was ever involved with that unscriptural procedure.