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  They are really begging for money again..

  by XBEHERE in

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  sorry i don't know how to post the actual letter but here is the text of it.

  lol.

  christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses 2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.

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  There is usually a call out for donations at this time of the year because of the tax season. I would expect that there is a WT article also for the same reason

  True but I have never seen a letter to the elders such as this regarding money. This really has to do with the Warwick , NY project and the fact that they probably aren't taking in as much from the WWW from the congregations. Back in the later 80's early 90's Patterson was VERY well funded but this probably isn't the case with Warwick. They need money, and your free labor (there was a letter regarding volunteering several weeks ago).
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  They are really begging for money again..

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry i don't know how to post the actual letter but here is the text of it.

  lol.

  christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses 2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.

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  Sorry I don't know how to post the actual letter but here is the text of it. lol

  Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses 2821 Route 22, Patterson, NY 12563-2237 Phone: (845) 306-1100

  10/18/13-E

  October 18, 2013

  TO ALL CONGREGATIONS

  Re: Donations to worldwide work and Kingdom Hall construction worldwide

  Dear Brothers:

  We would like to express our deep appreciation for your ongoing generous support of Kingdom interests around the world. The contributions received for the worldwide work and for Kingdom Hall construction worldwide help to provide much needed spiritual comfort during the "critical times" in which we live.—2 Tim. 3:1.

  Many of you are experiencing the effects of these critical times in your personal and family life. In Satan’s unjust, wicked world, it has become a struggle for some to obtain life’s basic needs. Despite these circumstances, your love for Jehovah and his organization moves you to contribute "with a complete heart." (1 Chron. 29:9) Just as Jesus took note of the widow’s donation of two small coins, Jehovah appreciates your gifts, knowing that you are motivated by love.—Luke 21:1-4.

  This giving spirit is in sharp contrast to the selfish attitude of those in the world around us. While many spend their resources on personal pleasures and on enriching their own lives, you faithful ones have put the needs of others ahead of your own. One way this is accomplished is by your monetary contributions that support the printing, translation, and distribution of publications that draw attention to the ‘life-giving water’ found in God’s Word, the Bible. (Rev. 22:17) Following the example of the first-century Christians, you also consider it a joy to contribute for the purpose of assisting your brothers in need, such as those affected by recent disasters. (Acts 2:45, 46) All of these efforts are largely supported by your donations to the worldwide work and to Kingdom Hall construction worldwide.

  May Jehovah continue to richly bless your hard work and loyal service as you generously support Kingdom interests.
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  Will Generational Teaching Affect Recruitment?

  by bemused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is my first post, so let me introduce myself briefly.

  i am not, nor ever have been, a jw but i have a close family member who has been a witness for many years.

  i have been curious about my relatives beliefs for some time but have only recently looked in any detail at what witnesses actually believe, which led me to this site.. i have seen references to changes to generational teaching but have not really understood what it was all about until i read the article let your kingdom come but when?

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  Recruitment has all but stopped in many so-called "industrialized" countries. In the U.S. most of the growth is from children of JWs getting baptized and foreign language groups. In other parts of the world its slowing but still prospering somewhat. These countries are full of JWs who are relatively new, no recollection of 1975, the 1995 generation change, etc. so recruitment may still be viable for a time.

  They need to become more mainstream to keep filling the kingdumb halls. I have a feeling that my childrens generation and definitely my grandchildren will be less inclined to become or remain JWs. For example if my kids left I would not ignore them or shun them. I doubt they'd do it to their children should they remain JWs.... the GB's psychological hold on its adherents is lessening with each successive generation. They are slowly becoming less and less credible even to people still claiming to be JWs.
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  Is everyone required to be enrolled in the theocratic ministry school?

  by hoser in

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  can a publisher "drop out" and still be in good standing?.

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  What Nathan said, sign of spiritual progress. BTW if you are an elder, servant, or pioneer you "need" to be on the TMS.
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  Letting go of Highly Qualified Men

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been posting for a few months now and have read the life stories of tech49, confusedandalone, winston smith and other brothers who have held prominent positions in the organization who were dismissed not for any gross sins, but mainly for not keeping their child toeing the line.

  they have been "cast aside", nit picked to death, and made to feel unworthy for their years of dedicated service.

  even in my case, having my best friends treat me like the plague to jockey for position of recogntion.. is this what the organization is resorting to now?

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  i think families of elders should be exemplary as they have prominent positions

  Do the elders themselves also need to be "exemplary"? I have been posting here for 12 years and have been an elder the entire time. lol
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  "Apostates" Who Return To Their Own Vomit

  by minimus in

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  once you realize ttatt, how can anyone with half a brain, go back??.

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  Blondie it could be, I really am on auto-pilot and often wonder what the heck I am doing.
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  Can the jw organization be reformed?

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.

  there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.

  i don't feel like that anymore.

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  I think that it is slowly is reforming. If you went back in time 20 yrs and told a JW living back then that there would be : only 2 meeting days a week, 3 magazines a month (2 at 16 pgs each), not only literature but Letters to Bodies of elders, talk outlines, etc. all available online in PDF format people would turn you in to the elders and you would be marked or reproved for spreading unreliable gossip. Times are changing, they are sloooooooooooooooooooooooooowly becoming more mainstream-ish.
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  "Apostates" Who Return To Their Own Vomit

  by minimus in

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  once you realize ttatt, how can anyone with half a brain, go back??.

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  About as stupid as somone like me who's been posting for almost 12 yrs and not am still active but serving as an elder as well. What is the psychology going on with me? I can't figure it out
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  why using a tablet at the platform during the meeting?

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  i can't understand why the governing body aka fds has to deside about using a tablet by the speaker at the platform.. why using a tablet anyway at the platform?.

  just a toy to keep the youth inside the congregation.. gorby.

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  It is easier to study, less to bring to the meetings and assemblies. I can't speak for everyone who uses tablets at, but for me its less about showing off and more about convenience. if I have to pretend that I give a rat's ass about the meeting at least this makes it easier to deal with it.
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  Why doesn't the GB come out with specific rules on counting time

  by trujw in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think we all know the reason millions of less hours.

  when i was in we went to a rv by the kingdom hall then drove 30 minutes out to the country to knock on a door then back to the city for one more door.

  god must be so proud!

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  In real practice nowdays, for appointed brothers anyway, more emphasis is placed on your "visibility" as opposed to the actual amount of time you are spending. Provided of course that you are getting at least the average of the congregation which varies 6-10+ hrs. As far as how you count your time nobody really give's a shit anymore in all honesty. I barely go out a few hrs a month but I do show up and take my group out and "show my face" and the other elders think I am so regular.. lol so stupid.