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  Survey---who is inactive, disfellowshipped/disassociated or active?

  by minimus in

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  i am inactive for about 10 years now..

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  XBEHERE

  Active, mentally out for 12 years. Trapped by my own cowardice and love for my VERY JW family.
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  How many have stopped attending at YOUR Kingdumb Hell?

  by hamsterbait in

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  on a recent thread about the fleecing of the sheeples, one poster said their congo was down to 85 publishers from 102.. the last hall i attended had 80-odd publishers 20 years ago, now only 30.. how much of a decline at your kh?.

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  Oh, I say very little knowing she is a typical Witness who selectively moans about the elders but stubbornly continus to believe it's the" twuth".

  Sounds exactly like my wife.. She will complain with me but if I start to say anything about the org "ok, ok I don't wanna hear that"
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  Has Anyone Heard Whether The New JW Bible Is Liked As Much As The Old One?

  by minimus in

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  my mom told me that she, my brother and his wife really didn't like this new bible.. when i asked her why, she said they dropped the headings on the top of the pages and that just wasn't as good.. have you heard any pros and cons about the new good book?.

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  The mentality is that everything new from the GB must be an improvement by default. A gift from Jehovah..

  At least thats what they will say.

  Most I know feel that way as well. I also noticed that when brothers especially begin to read from memory the "old" NWT they stop and say oops, thats the OLD one. If they don't catch themselves you can be sure that some sister or brother will mention it to them. Old... lol
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  Would You Become A JW Again If Local Congregations Could Become Independent?

  by Space Madness in

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  for those who still believe in god, if local congregations could break away from the watchtower would you consider becoming a witness again.

  this would mean no more governing body, circuit overseers, watchtower magazines, and each congregation could have its own "new light".

  most of us left because of the control (no college, disfellowsipping) but if the watchtower was out of the picture, all of this would disappear.

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  No. Just imagine a bunch of people here trying to hold together an organized group. Many here still have so much anger, resentment, and many (myself included) are socially awkward, it would be chaos. One thing I hand it to the WT is that they do know how to organize and oversee
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  What is this new Announcement to take place in August?

  by Quarterback in

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  just heard from an elder.

  he told me that there is another change to be announced in august.

  he didn't know more about it.. any other info?.

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  XBEHERE

  Yes probably the special tract thing. I haven't read any other letters of any changes taking place
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  How Many Had Chronic fatigue syndrome?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  chronic fatigue syndrome refers to severe, continued tiredness that is not relieved by rest and is not directly caused by other medical conditions.. did you have many congregation members, particularly pioneers, that said they had " chronic fatigue syndrome" ?.

  that's their "get-out-of-jail-free card.

  " they were free to cancel anything at anytime and it was their legitimate reason for not doing anything that didn't involve field recruiting.

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  When I was at Bethel this was a relatively new (at the time) buzzword for sisters especially. That and Carpal Tunel Syndrome. We all thought that a lot of them were dropping those conditions so that they could get transferred out of cleaning. I know now that they are real conditions but explain to me how waking up at the same time as usual and sorting mail, sitting at a front desk answering phones, etc. is better for CFS? Not sure
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  QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

  by wisdomfrombelow in

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  2. bible

  the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

  they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

  perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

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  That article, as well as others in the past still havent addressed the wording of Luke 20:34-36. I have always wondered, if they are supposed to be "like angels" then what about those horny angels during noah's time?

  So these ressurected ones will still have urges and desires for sexual satisfaction just as those angels did right?
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  CoC

  by XBEHERE in

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  i decided to give crisis of conscience another read (its been about 11 yrs).

  this interesting quote stood out.

  the scriptural arrangement.

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  Good luck with telling the wife. In my situation, and in many ways my wife has no interest in the actual JW religion. She can't explain doctrines and frankly doesnt care. However if I am at all negative towards the "society" she clams up, "ok.. I dont want to hear that.."

  She is more of what I'd call a Social Jehovah's Witness. If anything were to threaten that social status then its bad.
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  CoC

  by XBEHERE in

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  i decided to give crisis of conscience another read (its been about 11 yrs).

  this interesting quote stood out.

  the scriptural arrangement.

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  I decided to give Crisis of Conscience another read (its been about 11 yrs). This interesting quote stood out

  The Scriptural arrangement

  of bodies of elders had been summarily ended in 1932 by Judge

  Rutherford due to a lack of cooperation on the part of some elders

  with the Society’s programs and policies. page 26

  Hmm.. and the chapter continues that it was changed back in the early 70's due to research for the Aid to Bible Understanding book. I wonder if this is what's motivating some of the recent changes Such as the CO now appointing and deleting elders and ms

  Because of the lack of cooperation of some elders and perhaps CO's and DO's. Anyway read that before but never really stood out to me.
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  Hello- new here

  by Kikura in

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  been lurking for a while on here and thought i'd jump in.

  a great deal of many thoughtful posts on here but have to say am a bit turned off with the 'rabid apostate' ones!.

  my history- was raised in a divided household, mum converted to jw when pregnant with me back in 1970, dad was never jw but was supportive of taking us to meetings, assemblies etc.

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  XBEHERE

  Welcome Scott. There is a lot of anger and resentment still with many, myself included, however don't let it bother you or stop you. There are many, many nice people here who are understanding and are good listeners. Enjoy the forum.