nice chart. that book is really one of their worst pieces of sh*t that they've published. I mean WTF does not going to college have to do with Jeremiah??!
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God's Word for Us Through Jeremiah - Review
by Jeffro ina recent thread about this week's study of the watch tower society's god's word for us through jeremiah led me to decide to review how much of the bible book of jeremiah is actually considered in that publication.. unlike other watch tower society verse-by-verse considerations of some bible books, their jeremiah book instead purports to impart lessons 'for us'.
key scriptures in jeremiah contradict jw doctrine, so a verse-by-verse approach was out of the question, probably having learned from their daniel and isaiah efforts that expose problems with jw interpretations.. one good feature of the watchtower library on cd-rom is you can search for a scripture, then find all the search occurences for where that scripture has been cited in jw publications, which made the process much easier.. in god's word for us through jeremiah, much of the bible book of jeremiah is ignored altogether.
in fact, less than half of the bible book is mentioned at all, and only 16% of jeremiah is actually quoted (including portions with the instruction to "read" the cited verses.
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Have The JWs Changed All That Much In The Last 20 Years All That Much?
by minimus ini believe most witnesses believe that there is nothing new in their religion....would you agree with them?.
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XBEHERE
Yes in many ways. No urgency anymore, people generally do think more for themselves. Less respect for elders, CO's, etc. Of course there are and always will be zealots but generally people really don't give a shit as much as they used to. However if you become apostate they will turn on you in a second. There is still fear of shunning and loss of family. I guess more and more JW's like to live on the edge but ultimately will shun.
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Remarkably stupid point in this week's Jeremiah book study - Jehovah's loving kindness
by sir82 inthe whole jeremiah book is an abomination, but a point in this week's study exceeded even its usual standards of inanity.. from page 144, paragraph 10:.
in our day, god continues to show loving-kindness in ways that directly benefit his worshippers.
consider the matter of prayer.
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XBEHERE
I agree the Jeremiah book is a complete abomination. Its full of opinions not backed by scripture, its one of the worst publications they've ever put out.
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Do You Care About "The Royal Baby"?
by minimus ini don't get it.
(and i don't care about america's "royalty" either)..
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nope
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Who still goes to meetings and out in field service?
by SloppyJoe injust curious as to who on here still regularly attends meetings and goes out in service?
as i sit at the district convention i can't help but think who else out in the crowd is just like me.
doesn't believe what they hear, but are still here..
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XBEHERE
I do both and am currently serving as an elder. I pretty much go to meetings and just look at the speaker, pretend that I am listening. I comment once during each meeting so as not to cause suspicion. I also take every chance I get not to go, fake illnesses or working late but that has to be limited.
As for ministry I also try to "fake it" as much as possible. Fortunately my wife is on board because she doesn't like the ministry so we tend to work as a family, do a couple calls, go to Dunkin Donuts and go home.
The most difficult part for me is to sit in elders meetings... OMG they are so power hungry, egotistical, and controlling. I have to drift off to a different place so I dont freak out and blurt something "apostate" out.
I have not chosen an easy path, I am slowly working on my wife for an exit in the hopefully near future.
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Former Longtime Elder - Reflections
by James Jackson inthe meetings are getting more boring to me.
some of the elders during their parts just talk and talk and talk about uninteresting things.
boring, boring.
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XBEHERE
Weird in many of the congregations in my area the elder bodies are pretty young. Many ranging in age from late 20's-80's. I see not too many MS's compared to back in the 80's and 90's. I guess it all depends on where you live.
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The Pecking Order Of Jehovah's Witnesses
by minimus inthey don't realize it but there is a pecking order.
you especially see it when the circuit overseer comes by.
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XBEHERE
Its so obvious especially as you said when the CO comes to town. So stupid
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Something the WT will never admit regarding jw.org
by Richard_I inwe all know how much the jws higher education and how they look down on those getting a post-secondary diploma or degree.
but think about all the work needed to make jw.org:.
web programmersdatabase programmersnetwork programmersgeneral it (administration, maintenance, etc.
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Yeah IT people do not generally need degrees. But look at the team of lawyers the WT has, also the Doctors at Bethel, the Engineers, etc. etc. Truly hypocritical to say the least.
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I get so tired of people complaining about everything President Obama says or does
by booker-t infor the past 4 1/2 years i have heard everything said about president obama and now the lastest "obama being the anti-christ" just have me laughing my head off.
where do people get nonsense like this?
do they just sit around the kitchen table and say "what are we going to say next about obama and michelle?
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XBEHERE
I do not like to discuss politics but I agree, tired of people putting the man down. The fact is that they all fk up, his race has absolutely nothing to do with it. Everyone had something to complain about each president. Really who gives a shit, its not like the president really controls the government anyway.
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I just want a divorce!
by bornfree123 inhi there, this is my first post, but i've been buzzing around this site for years.. i got married at 18, hubby was 20, i was a regular pioneer and we were talking about serving in bethel.
fast forward - i left in 2004 after a 5 year battle with my conscience, family and friends who kept insisting that i was just "weak and needed to have another bible study".
however hubby and i stayed together although it was kinda on the understanding that we would just not talk about it.
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XBEHERE
Although he might get some temporary heat from the elders, he is allowed to divorce simply based on what has happened. Then he would not be "scripturally" free according to their rules
If one of the marriage mates did not commit porniea with someone else or an animal (yes that is in the elders manual) then no matter what, there is no scriptural divorce period. Meaning neither one can be appointed to any "special" privleges (hurts the men more than the woman). Also if either decide to start dating someone else they will get spoken to. If they persist after several warnings then a "marking" talk will be given. If the person decides to get married again then they are marked as bad associates but no judicial action would be taken and the other mate is only then scripturally free.
The odd thing about this whole, convoluted, bull shit of a situation is that if these 2 ex marriage mates who are labled as still "scripturally" married decide to have sex again with each other then they are before a committee for fornication. Now thats quite the head scratcher, never could rationalize that one.