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  I don't wanna buy 2 books

  by DanTheMan in

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  crisis of conscience, or in search of christian freedom - which do you recommend if i was only to buy one of the two?

  thanks

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  If you can, get both. Crisis of Conscience is more exposing the Watch Tower, and In Search of Christian Freedom is more about the doctrines and how many of them are not scriptural at all. I think both need reading more than once. If money is a problem I would buy In Search of Christian Freedom, and get Crisis of Conscience from your local library. In Search of Christian Freedom is a thick book [732 pages] and really needs to be around for references. Or maybe you could get both from the library, and then decide after you have read them if you wish to buy them for your own personal reference copies. (Beware the library versions may be old editions)

  The latest version [2000] of Crisis of Conscience has quotes up to June 2000, so make sure you get that one and not an older version. (Amazon.com list it as 1999, but when mine came it was the second printing of the third edition, which was 2000)
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  Quote from a Witness board on Yahoo

  by pseudoxristos in

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  letter writing is just one of the many ways that we can do witnessing.

  i have known of sisters and brothers that went through the newspaper looking for obituaries (death announcements) and researched the family members then wrote them a brief letter included the brochure "when someone you love dies".

  in doing this some have started bible studies.

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  That is disgusting—sounds on a similar line to Ciro Aulicino’s talk last year after Sept. 11th. How to latch onto the grieving and vulnerable.

  Funny how they always go for the weak, grieving, depressed, lonely, insecure, all the people who are open to being manipulated and sucked in with ‘love bombing’ and indoctrination. I see they [The Watch Tower] never pride themselves on making converts with the intellectuals, university professors, or scholars, it’s always the weak and vulnerable—or those experiencing trauma an distress, the very ones who have little power to reason clearly.

  Reading that quote reminded me of the film Paper Moon, where Tatum O'Neal puts her cutie face on and seeks out the grieving relatives, so she and her dad [Ryan O'Neal] can sell them a gilded and named Bible! The poor grieving widows are so messed up they just give in and pay.

  It’s so sickening to see the Watch Tower and JWs use such repugnant manipulative techniques to get converts.
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  For You Know

  by effe in

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  can you give me an emailadres where i can reach you?

  i would like to get in contact with you.. greetings,.

  effe

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  Undecided:
  Yardirf already knew that, he was just looking for an excuse to insult me—pathetic behaviour from him, but then why would he do otherwise and break a life time habit?

  You Know:
  You make me laugh, yes I posted a reply in the wrong thread and edited it before anyone responded, so why did you post a reply after it was clear that I removed it? Plus why the insult? Oh yeah—It’s your Christ like love showing again!
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  "ARMAGEDDON COULD HAPPEN"

  by You Know in

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  even as apostate dubs plan their next apostofest, world leaders speak of the very real possibility of an event so dreaded that they are evoking the image of the biblical armageddon.

  in the wake of the anglo-american policy revision of recklessly targeting various nations with the threat of a first-strike nuclear attack, it appears that iraq has been singled out as the first on the hit list.

  in response to the increasing drum beat of war against the poster boy of evil, "sodom" hussian, the jordanian king has warned that an attack upon iraq may unleash uncontrollable destructive forces.

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  You Know:

  What makes you think if God were coming to judge the world you would stand a chance in hell of being saved? Your bloodlust and self-righteous condemnation of all who are not wilful Watch Tower slaves is astounding. Not only that, but your sickening merciless joy—yes joy—in the prospect of death, destruction, and mayhem to billions of people who haven’t a clue what you, or the JWs even stand for—let alone what Jesus represents!

  Remember You Know—What goes around comes around.
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  For You Know

  by effe in

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  can you give me an emailadres where i can reach you?

  i would like to get in contact with you.. greetings,.

  effe

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  Nemesis

  Edited because I posted in the wrong thread.
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  MEDICAL Expertise of the Watchtower.

  by Focus in

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  "can the ethiopian change his skin color?

  "stupid children require attention for a different reason.

  drink a full glass of water both before and after the bath.

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  I didn’t read them all, but I suppose the Watch Tower is happy it was right on some things. Aluminium has been linked with Alzheimer’s disease, and has progressively been fazed out of cooking utensils; Aluminium it’s a known cellular toxin. There was a case a few years back where many were poisoned with an accidental spill of aluminium sulphate in the water supply in Cornwall [West England]:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_786000/786925.stm
  http://www.doublef.co.uk/texts/al/polpois.htm

  As for vaccinations, they also have a poison in them [mercury] that is coming to light, it’s called thimerosal, and has many links to autism, and brain damage—although when the Golden Age was first screaming about the ‘evils’ of vaccines it wasn’t used in them [1920s]. Some info is on these two links, but there are many more:
  http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb/6/mercury.htm

  http://www.mercola.com/2001/feb/24/autism_mercury.htm

  PS. I’m not remotely defending the Watch Tower and it’s bloodguilt, I thought you might be interested in some things that have turned out to have some truth.
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  Queen Mother passes away.

  by dmouse in

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  buckingham palace has confirmed that her majesty the queen mother passed away peacefully in her sleep this afternoon.. she was a wonderful lady.

  we will miss you ma'am.. farewell.

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  Nemesis

  Well she had a good long life.

  Looks like we will be getting a large state funeral—I wonder if she will get a bigger turnout than Diana did?
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  Creation Story Contradiction

  by JosephAlward in

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  the two different creation stories in genesis contradict each other in the matter of the order of the creation of man and vegetation.

  in the first story, vegetation was created on the third day, and three days later man was created.

  however, in the second creation story, there was no vegetation before man.

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  Hi Joseph:

  Well… I really don’t see how anyone would interpret Genesis 1:6–10 as anything but the differing formation of land from sea. There is no elaboration on irrigation for plants. “And God said: ‘Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let the dry ground appear.’ And it was so. God called the dry ground ‘land’, and the gathered waters he called ‘seas’. And God saw that is was good.”—Gen. 1:9, 10

  All that is being described Joseph is the formation of land, just like when a new Hawaiian island appears in the pacific. The earth/magma level has to rise above sea level to become a separate boundary, a boundary commonly known as ‘dry land’, and the water as the sea.

  Nemesis argues that this account does not specifically say that the gathered waters irrigated the land, but how else could the vegetation have grown in Verse 11 if the land wasn't irrigated by the gathered waters in Verse 10?

  As said Joseph, the gathering is simply the separation and the distinction between dry land and sea. The irrigation would come later in the same manner as described in the second account: “But streams came up from the surface and watered the whole surface of the ground.”—Gen. 2:6

  As for Elohim/Yahweh, I don’t think that is relevant for the questions your poised, whether plants came before man, and then when/how plants grew, as the ‘dry’ period is clearly separate from the plant growth period—Genesis 1:9, 10; 2:4, 5.
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  A question for the English

  by apostate man in

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  i have no intentions of starting a flame.

  but, i have a few questions.. i was reading this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24652&site=3&page=1 and it occured to me that americans and brits have a lot not in common.

  i will admit i am not very educated when it comes to england.

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  Oh, I forgot, Faggot also means a type of sausage/meatloaf [liver, spices, herbs and pork] or it can mean a bundle of sticks!
  Some more are here:
  http://www.accomodata.co.uk/amlish.htm
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  A question for the English

  by apostate man in

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  i have no intentions of starting a flame.

  but, i have a few questions.. i was reading this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24652&site=3&page=1 and it occured to me that americans and brits have a lot not in common.

  i will admit i am not very educated when it comes to england.

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  Apostate man:

  Fag/Faggot also means homosexual here [and cigarettes]. I suppose it would sound funny to an American if someone was giving up smoking here and they said, “Oh, I would do anything to have a fag in my mouth and suck on that fag!”

  One that does make us laugh is your use of fanny: “Oh my fanny hurts… or he slapped me on the fanny etc.” Over here Fanny is the street slang for Vagina—it’s used just the same as pussy, unless you’re talking about a cat!

  Another phrase you find amusing is ‘Lay the table’, no we don’t have sex with the table, it just means lay out the cutlery and plates etc. on the table before a meal.

  Some others less funny are:
  Sweets=Candy
  Chips=French fries [but we also use fries]
  Pavement=Sidewalk
  Motorway=Highway
  Holiday=Vacation

  I’m sure there are many more others would like to add.