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  LA's moments of pure PLEASURE!!

  by insearchoftruth4 in

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  in a recent post of jw parties in la, makes me realize of what i had and have.

  as they say "you can take the kid out of the city, but you can't ....... my lakers".

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26i72fjvpjy.

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  The cannon .
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  Another Suicide

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  there wouldn't have been any good way to hear the news i suppose.

  it's just so strange to recall the conversation yesterday.

  my "still in" parents are with me and my inactive sister having a pleasant conversation.

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  William the X- Im so sorry, Ive lost several good witness friends to suicide as well. Wondering what I could have done different was always my first thought too.

  Your posts have always meant alot to me. Keep your head up.
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  It's All Your Fault - 9.15.13 wt Study Ed

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. bible

  "in a similar way, at the beginning of the 20th century, there were a number of wrong expectations among true christians regarding the last days.

  (2 tim.

  3:1) for instance, in the year 1914, some thought that their being taken to heaven was imminent.

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  Classic you-a-culpa.
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  School for Congregation Elders

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.

  i was already divided in my heart to say the least.

  one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.

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  @James Jackson- We stopped attending meetings and reporting time late last year so our status is " inactive". Thanks for asking and welcome to the forum!
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  My Letter to Brooklyn about the Parousia that got me disfellowshipped

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the letter i wrote back in '96 about the parousia.

  following the '95 watchtower that disconnected the "generation" from 1914 i began to look carefully at end-time prophecy and soon discovered what i knew were basic errors in what i had been taught.. i was a loyal jw at the time and was still serving as an elder.

  i used only watchtower publications in my research.

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  insearchoftruth4-Im really sorry I gave that stupid marking talk about you bro. You are one of my best friends now.
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  "The END is soooooo close"

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i notice reported in a number of posts that this seems to a bit of a mantra with the dubbies now, more so than ever in the past.. is this because they are getting desperate for the life they live as jw's to change ?

  they don't really want to end their days with the constant drudgery of the jw life still going on, they want something different, but must "wait on jehovah".

  sigh.. i wonder if this is a small opportunity for us to sow some small, niggling doubt, why not ask, when they spew out the "it is soooo close" nonsense:.

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  The JW lifestyle is what makes them yearn for the end. The treadmill of meeting attendance , service, peronal study, conventions and assemblies plus the constant feelings of guilt and a negative view of everything non-JW is exhausting. They just need relief.

  If only they would consider an alternate solution, they dont need 7.8 billion people destroyed to bring relief. Just detach from 8 in NY.
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  Apostate Symposium 2013 San Diego District Convention

  by problemaddict in

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  2. beliefs

  sorry i did not get audio.

  too much going on around me that would give me away anyways.

  i think someone posted audio, but it is different from what i heard on some levels.

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  Thanks for the intel...
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  BREAKING FREE is going to cost....

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  breaking free is going to cost plenty!

  family, friends, reputation, purpose in life and self-accusations.. .

  the very same brain that gets you in to the religion is what you are stuck with when you get out.

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  Good post, thank you.
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  School for Congregation Elders

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.

  i was already divided in my heart to say the least.

  one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.

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  @crazyguy- Im not sure I can give a thorough answer to that right now because Im putting my kids to sleep. I sometimes wonder why my wife woke up much easier than many of the accounts I read about on here. I definately dont think anything I did was special. In fact I think I went too fast according to most advice I have heard.

  It seems to me that particular reasoning and logic you use is secondary to your approach and to the perspective of the listener.

  I focused on my relationship with my wife. I love her , so I acted like it. I love my kids, so I acted like it. She never viewed me as a threat. I made it a point to talk about ( non-JW ) uncomfortable topics often, in a way that made awkwardness feel normal. Being cynical , asking questions, laughing at me ( daddy ) is OK. My human wife is who I wanted out of the cult, so the human is who I appealed to.

  That being said, I never hid my emotions from her . When a meeting pissed me off, she knew it. Not because I counted off the reasons why, but because She could see it on my face.

  When she was ready, she would ask why...

  My answers were always focused on our kids.

  My thought was , the WT has made outrageous claims. Not me. Im not trying to prove anything , but they are , every thursday and sunday. The plaintiff holds the burden of proof even in the human justice system.

  Im just an imperfect husband and father who wants the best for his family. I dont know all the answers, but I wont demonise all the questions.

  Is " The Truth" the one good thing our parents got right, or do imperfect people pass on imperfect lifestyles?

  IMO , the witnesses got something right , and that is, They're just imperfect men , its all we have . This concept shouldnt be applied to just the GB...

  but to the human race.
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  *sigh*

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

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  2. friends

  this is my first time participating in a site like this , so please.

  forgive me if my approach is clumsy.. my story is not extraordinary and hardly interesting, so thanks.

  in advance to this forum for extending the bandwidth for my own.

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  @problem-It sounds like she is gonna make it my friend, I think your patience will pay off. Its very tough.It was and still is for my wife. We are not Df'd but everyone knows we quit on purpose. Now nobody calls except the elders.

  I seem to remember reading that you have little ones. That may really help her gain the courage to quit the WT drug. Thinking about our kids future is what made both of us put the magazine down. The WT put us in a spell that made life easy, it was a cop-out. All we had to do was survive between meetings. A connect-the-dot life. No decisions, no right and wrong, just show up.

  But my opinion is that the smug, arrogant , self righteous attitude of an old timer witness was usually bought with the currency of a beaten ,ridiculed, awkward ,and stolen childhood.

  These are just my feelings. Problemaddict, I hope the best for you and hope you keep in touch..