Posts by NeonMadman

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Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

by cultswatter in

a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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NeonMadman

I'm sure they'll receive new light on it when the time comes.

Exacly. Since the 2034 date is based on 120 years from 1914, I suspect that by 2034, the 1914 date will have been greatly revised as to its meaning or dropped entirely.

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DF reform

by Dagney in

does anyone have the scoop on what may have been a recent attempt to reform df policy?.

NeonMadman

If apostates had the chance to publically air their doubts and the facts learned about the society, maybe it would get all of the R&F thinking.

Which is why it will never happen.

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HEY!!! ANY GUYS HERE FROM DELAWARE?

by White Dove in

thought i would take someone's advice to someone else and use it.

chenoa.

NeonMadman

Northern New Jersey here...

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Can a JW be a Notary Public?

by Wordly Andre in

i am not sure how it is in other states but in california you have to raise your right hand and take the oath of office, in that oath you swear or affirm to the best of your ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states and the laws of the united states so help me god.

is there a conflict for jw's on this?

jw do not serve in public offices, a notary by law is a public office, due to the fact that you swear to protect and defend the constitution you are saying that you are allies with the united states.

NeonMadman

Oh, and it was no secret in the congregation that I was a NP; lots of the "friends" came to me to have things notarized (for free, of course).

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Can a JW be a Notary Public?

by Wordly Andre in

i am not sure how it is in other states but in california you have to raise your right hand and take the oath of office, in that oath you swear or affirm to the best of your ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the united states and the laws of the united states so help me god.

is there a conflict for jw's on this?

jw do not serve in public offices, a notary by law is a public office, due to the fact that you swear to protect and defend the constitution you are saying that you are allies with the united states.

NeonMadman

I was a Notary Public for a time when I was a JW; in Massachusetts then in Connecticut. I don't recall the oath as containing anything objectionable. I also was not required to register as a voter in order to be appointed. I did have to be interviewed by a judge to determine my character, however.

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The 2006 "updated" Rev Climax book still "denounces" the UN as the beast.

by booker-t in

jw
friends

i was recently given a copy of the 2006 revelation climax book by a jw's pioneer woman that i see all the time in front of the bus stop.

we talked for a while and she just handed me a billion books and mags.

i brought up the un scandal to her and she right away went into defense mode.

NeonMadman

I saw the new paper back copies as well at my family's house recently. I was wondering if it was a new edition as well.

I have a paperback edition, but it's the same as the old one except for the binding. None of the new "changes" have been incorporated into the text.

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The 2006 "updated" Rev Climax book still "denounces" the UN as the beast.

by booker-t in

jw
friends

i was recently given a copy of the 2006 revelation climax book by a jw's pioneer woman that i see all the time in front of the bus stop.

we talked for a while and she just handed me a billion books and mags.

i brought up the un scandal to her and she right away went into defense mode.

NeonMadman

Is there actually a revised edition of the book now? Last I knew, they were using the old version with the KM inserts that listed the changes.

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July KM - warning against active apostates - summary

by dozy in

the question box in july deals with the internet - mainly concerned with children on myspace & similar sites -mentioning that your child could be talking to paedophiles , dfd ones or even "active apostates" .

the main article deals with the - "exciting" and "thrilling" news of the new wt arrangement (maybe some people should get out more).

nothing new in the article , which has as the sole justification the need no longer to explain "theocratic" terms like "pioneer" , but it does seem that the awake will be tailored more to non-christian people.

NeonMadman

Before I was disfellowshipped my sister said their were only two reasons for which she would never talk to me again, if I became a pedophile or and apostate.

What if you became a pedophile but were still an elder in good standing?

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What do you think the first secret watchtower is going to be about?

by 5go in

what do you think the first secret watchtower is going to be about?.

you know the jan 15th, 2008 apostate proof edition..

NeonMadman

After years of seeing excitement whipped up among JW's about marvelous new "arrangements" that turned out to be the same old crap, slightly tweaked, I'm inclined to think that what we will see in the new "secret" Watchtower editions will be: the same old crap, slightly tweaked. Take the two Watchtowers for any given month, clip out all the study articles and put them under one cover (along with, maybe, the more organizationally-oriented "Questions from Readers"). Then take all the articles that are left, and place them under the other cover. Then print 14 million or so fewer copies of the ones with the study articles. That, I think, is pretty much what next year's Watchtowers will be like.

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Apostates Why Do You Insist On Persecuting Us?

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

apostates why do you insist on persecuting us?leaflets placed under car windshield wipers, tracts and pamphlets left in rest rooms .

and demonstrators disrupting, protesting and causing an atmosphere of ill will at our.

assemblies and conventions.

NeonMadman

I recall attending the District Assemblies when I was a kid and there always being people outside with tracts and my parents called them "The Evil Slave Class. They were always at the major assemblies.

Sure, I remember them. They usually stood quietly outside the assemblies and handed out leaflets and such. There were several of them at the 1969 convention in NYC; I came home with a collection of apostate info. Too bad I didn't give it more credence; I might not have spent 30 years in the borg. I also was at Tiger Stadium for the 1973 International Convention, but I don't specifically recall seeing any evil slavers there...