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  October 1975 - VS May 2011

  by brotherdan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anyone have any articles from outside media sources about the 1975 wt scandal that were written before or just after 1975?

  i wanted to put that type of article side by side with the article regarding the may 2011 rapture prediction and see how they were similar.. does anyone have any of these outside news items about 1975?.

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  NeonMadman

  JWs are in constant trouble with the law. The reason given was the refusal of military service not on the grounds of conscientious objection, but because they said they are exempt because they are all ministers. I wonder why they wouldn't use conscientious objection?

  Under the draft laws as they existed in the USA in the late 60's and early 70's, conscientious objectors were required to do alternative civilian service, usually at jobs where they could replace workers who would be able to enter combat service. JW's were, of course, forbidden to do such alternative service at the time. Ministers, on the other hand, received a complete deferment. Typically, regular pioneers and "congregation servants" (equivalent of today's CoBoE) could receive ministerial deferments. Other JW's could get CO status at best.
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  2011 district convention

  by obarac in

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  somebody know the theme of this years district convention or is still top secret?.

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  NeonMadman

  Luk 21:8 And he said, "See that you are not led astray. For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am he!' and, 'The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.
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  End of the world is May 21, 2011

  by observador in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys,.

  have you heard of this group?

  take a look at the article.. it's amazing that journalists don't even mention the jw organization in this type of article, despite a rich history of this type of prediction and the number of followers in the us... just shows how irrelevant this organization has become.. article here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110103/ap_on_re/us_rel_apocalypse_soon.

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  NeonMadman

  Harold Camping also predicted the return of Christ for 1994, so we are already dealing with a "revised" chronology. Oops.
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  Does WikiLeaks have any Scoop on the WTBTS to be released?

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  since wl deals with documented facts, not merely rumors and speculations.....what would you most like to see documented and revealed about the watchtower, the gb members, or the wt true agenda?.

  if you could ask wl to dig up information about any curiosity you have concerning this cult....what would you have them investigate?.

  do you think there is any information that will be released concerning religions and cults?.

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  NeonMadman

  I'd like to see a comparitive psykological analysis between people living in the JW Org., and people living in mariage with an abusive psychopath.

  How about those who had to do both at the same time?
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  Scriptural proof on elders

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,.

  is there any scriptural proof that the word elder in the ot and nt can refer to people of any age that have a duty of responsibility.

  i believe it only refers to people of old age with wisdom but the insight book is trying to say otherwise, their scriptures quoted do not really point out to any real evidence.. .

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  NeonMadman

  Timothy was both a young man and an elder, was he not? Sorry, I'd quote some passages, but I'm staying in a hotel over the holiday weekend, and my laptop doesn't have my Bible software on it.
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  Christmas visit from the elders

  by MrFreeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yes the elders made another stop to continue to try to get me back to the meetings.

  my main argument with them has been the incorrect dates.

  607, 1914. they said i need to stop focusing on dates.

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  NeonMadman

  He probably had his own secret sin which he was trying to conceal, and couldn't imagine that someone else wouldn't be the same.

  LOL good point. That actually never occurred to me.
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  what are you doing for christmas?)

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am baking right now.

  this can be frustrating and satisfying at the same time.

  for example, i have never made meringue cookies before.

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  NeonMadman

  The perfect ex-JW Christmas - Chinese dinner with my wife and daughter followed by a movie (in this case, the new Narnia in 3D). Following a tradtion of many years...
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  Christmas visit from the elders

  by MrFreeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yes the elders made another stop to continue to try to get me back to the meetings.

  my main argument with them has been the incorrect dates.

  607, 1914. they said i need to stop focusing on dates.

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  NeonMadman

  During the discussion they were trying to dig into the reasons for me leaving. It couldn't possibly be the teachings! They asked, "Is it a girl? Is it drugs? Is it alcohol?" No on all three, except the third. In that case however, Jehovah's Witnesses have driven me to alcohol. They also used the opportunity to bash on Christmas. Another fun discussion with these "shepherds".

  I had a similar experience with a trainee CO. He came by with the regular CO to "help" me with my "doubts" and instead tried to grill me about what sort of secret sin I was trying to conceal/justify by pretending I had doubts about Jehovah's organization. He just couldn't comprehend the idea that someone might have ACTUAL DOUBTS about the organization.
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  Does WikiLeaks have any Scoop on the WTBTS to be released?

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  since wl deals with documented facts, not merely rumors and speculations.....what would you most like to see documented and revealed about the watchtower, the gb members, or the wt true agenda?.

  if you could ask wl to dig up information about any curiosity you have concerning this cult....what would you have them investigate?.

  do you think there is any information that will be released concerning religions and cults?.

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  NeonMadman

  Didn't they host the pdf of the old elders' manual for a while?
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  does today's daily text fly in the face of disfellowshipping and shunning?

  by therevealer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  *** es10 p. 126 december ***.

  friday, december 24. happy are the peaceable, since they will be called "sons of god."-matt.

  5:9.. if we are the kind of people whom jesus had in mind, we are peaceable and do not render injury for injury to anyone.

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  NeonMadman

  Peacemakers do not do anything that ‘separates those familiar with one another.'

  The JW's would claim that it is the person who commits the disfellowshipping offense who is responsible for causing the separation. Not anything the organization does, of course.