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  Interesting JW/Mormon Statistics from Barna

  by NeonMadman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the barna group conducted a survey comparing the religious and demographic backgrounds of jw's and mormons vs. evangelical christians.

  i found some of the statistics rather surprising.

  for example, 29% of those who said they are jw's also reported that they are registered to vote.

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  NeonMadman

  Rounded up, 2 out of 7 or 4 out of 14 would get you 29%. That's far too small
  a sample for accurate statistics. Many such statistics are derived from small
  samples. They don't tell you that because they need to fill pages and sound
  like they know what they are doing. Even if the sample is larger (say 100), it is
  JW's that fill out such surveys that answered while the majority would simply
  avoid answering, so it really would not represent JWism as a whole.

  The article says that they contacted 186 JW's, which implies that the 29% who said they were registered to vote would have been about 54 individuals. Granted that's still too small a sample to reach any definite conclusions, it still strikes me as a high number. I can't imagine interviewing 100 publishers in a given congregation and finding that 29 of them were registered to vote. You may be right, though, that the sample itself may be skewed. Probably the more gung-ho JW's would avoid answering such a survey, especially if they knew it was an evangelical survey firm conducting it.
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  Interesting JW/Mormon Statistics from Barna

  by NeonMadman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the barna group conducted a survey comparing the religious and demographic backgrounds of jw's and mormons vs. evangelical christians.

  i found some of the statistics rather surprising.

  for example, 29% of those who said they are jw's also reported that they are registered to vote.

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  NeonMadman

  Neon

  Is this the one?

  http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&BarnaUpdateID=298

  Well, yes and no. When I hit that link I come up to the front page rather than the actual article. That's the same problem I was having trying to embed it.
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  Interesting JW/Mormon Statistics from Barna

  by NeonMadman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the barna group conducted a survey comparing the religious and demographic backgrounds of jw's and mormons vs. evangelical christians.

  i found some of the statistics rather surprising.

  for example, 29% of those who said they are jw's also reported that they are registered to vote.

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  NeonMadman

  OK, for some reason I can't get this to come up to the right article when I embed it. It keeps bringing up the main page, even though it shows the correct article in the edit mode. If you go to http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=Home and click on "Barna Updates" then on "All Barna Updates" on the drop down menu, you will see a list of recent updates. On that list, the article in question is listed under May 12, 2008.

  Sorry for such complexity, but I can't get the blamed thing to embed properly...
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  Interesting JW/Mormon Statistics from Barna

  by NeonMadman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the barna group conducted a survey comparing the religious and demographic backgrounds of jw's and mormons vs. evangelical christians.

  i found some of the statistics rather surprising.

  for example, 29% of those who said they are jw's also reported that they are registered to vote.

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  NeonMadman

  The Barna Group conducted a survey comparing the religious and demographic backgrounds of JW's and Mormons vs. evangelical Christians. I found some of the statistics rather surprising. For example, 29% of those who said they are JW's also reported that they are registered to vote. Now I realize there is a "hang on" factor of people who are associated with the organization, but are not actually baptized and/or active, and that even some of the active ones may have been registered before they became JW's but I still found that number higher than I would have expected. There's other interesting stuff, too. Here's the article:
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  Which would be easier to defend, JWs or Mormons?

  by undercover in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  whenever i ponder on the beliefs and practices of the mormon church, i wonder how anyone can belief such rubbish.

  even when i was an active jw i looked at mormons as down right kooky, what with their special underwear, the book of mormon, the american indians being isrealites, the tablets, etc, etc, etc.

  i was glad as a kid that i wasn't mormon because at least as a jw we could drink sodas.... even after i discovered that i was in a f'd up religion and made my way out, i still see mormons as so out there, that there's no way you can defend their beliefs, yet so many people become or remain mormons.. when i compare mormon beliefs with jw beliefs, it seems easier to disprove or discount mormon beliefs vs jw ones.

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  NeonMadman

  Having spoken with Mormon missionaries in the past, I found them pretty open about the fact that their final authority is the current teaching of the church, as opposed to and above the Bible, the Book of Mormon or any other source. That would make them perhaps a bit harder to deal with than JW's, since JW's at least CLAIM that the Bible is their final authority, even though we all know that the real final authority for a JW is the organization's explanation of the Bible and not the Bible itself.
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  Harvest SIftings Part II - PDF Download

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  okay everyone, here is the latest pdf file to add to your library.

  over the holiday weekend i was cleaning out a storage room where i keep boxes and boxes of watchtower literature and came across harvest siftings (part ii), dated oct. 1, 1917. it was authored by j. f. rutherford and is "a reply to the paper called "light after darkness.

  " which was written by the four ousted directors.. while i have an original copy of this paper, i have yet to find it, this pdf was made from a photocopy i made for research, as i didn't want to damage the original.

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  NeonMadman

  Yes, the ones I remember from the 60's and 70's were professionally printed, not mimeographed. Unfortunately, I threw them all away at the behest of an elder who didn't want me reading such satanic material...
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  Harvest SIftings Part II - PDF Download

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  okay everyone, here is the latest pdf file to add to your library.

  over the holiday weekend i was cleaning out a storage room where i keep boxes and boxes of watchtower literature and came across harvest siftings (part ii), dated oct. 1, 1917. it was authored by j. f. rutherford and is "a reply to the paper called "light after darkness.

  " which was written by the four ousted directors.. while i have an original copy of this paper, i have yet to find it, this pdf was made from a photocopy i made for research, as i didn't want to damage the original.

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  NeonMadman

  Thanks RR!

  If I remember correctly, you had mentioned some time ago that you might be scanning Roy Goodrich's "Back to the Bible Way" newsletters. Did you ever get around to that? Is it likely for the future? Is my memory faulty?
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  Obama Joke

  by uwishufish in

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  2. friends

  obama gets to the pearly gate.

  st peter greats him "name please".

  obama: president obama.

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  NeonMadman

  As long as Hillary isn't his VP, he probably has nothing to worry about...
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  Top 10 strange reasons WT is right

  by knock knock in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had a long conversation with my mom tonight and we went back and forth for over an hour regarding the wt.

  she said something tonight that kind of left me speechless as i've never heard anything like this one before.

  the wt is right because... .

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  NeonMadman

  The WT is right because they are God's organization. And we know they are God's organization because they told us they were. And we know that they told the truth because they are God's organization.
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  From Your Experience: Did Elder's Families Get Away With More Than Others?

  by minimus in

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  was everyone treated the same in your hall?

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  NeonMadman

  I knew an elder's daughter and her boyfriend who were reproved on the same night, and everyone knew what it was for. He was on restrictions for about a year; she was off restriction after a month.