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Ucantnome
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Ucantnome
we were discussing the meaning of the word hate
am i to understand that you think Jesus meant they should detest their wives?
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Ucantnome
Yes I would.
So leaving to go to do a job is hating your wife. i know some one who had to go away for a considerable time from his wife, infact he lives abroad for work. They have been married for 30 years and seem happy enoug
one of my children had a similar situation and they were very much in love.
when you were a Witness did you understand that the word the word hate could have various meanings?
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Ucantnome
i don't know Cofty but would you still feel it's 'think it is intellectually dishonest.'?
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Ucantnome
My Vines Complete Expository Dictionary Old and New Testament Words page 292 under Hate, Hateful, Hater, Hatered,
(c) of relative preference for one thing over another, by way of expressing either aversion from, or disregard for, the claims of one person or thing relatively to those of another, Matt, 6:26, and Luke 16 :13, as to the claims of parents relatively to those of Christ, John 12:25, of disregard for one's life relatively to the claims of Christ....
'of relative preference for one thing over another,'
What do you think of this Cofty?
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Ucantnome
maybe hate means loving to a lesser degree
The book Insight on the Scriptures (Watchtower 1988) mentions this.
What do you think Cofty? As a former elder.
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Do you ever get frustrated and feel dirty after sharing experiences on JWN?
by BucketShopBill init's a giant boil on my butt, thinking how long we all were tricked by a cult.
reading so many of our fellows threads, it help's reinforce we made the correct choice in mentally or physically leaving the watchtower's path to truth, they never had it and nobody can prove they did!
ray franz jr. came to that conclusion, even he had to accept "this is not the best of all relgions, in fact, it's on the bad side!
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Ucantnome
do they make you depressed at times because you wasted your better years following the Watchtower?
i find it an element of 'depressed at times'
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Ucantnome
no. i understood it better
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Did You Feel Guilty As A Witness Because Of Your Sexuality?
by minimus indid you feel guilty over your sexual feelings or actions, while you were a jw?
the watchtower always wasnts people to feel guilty.
i know of many witnesses that would pioneer or volunteer for something, as an act of penance for their sexual sins or desires, even if they were married!.
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Ucantnome
Did you feel guilty over your sexual feelings or actions, while you were a JW?
Yes I think so. I was very careful with my action.
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October 1914
by Quendi inwe have had a great discussion about world war i and its impact on the twentieth century.
i hope we can have an equally interesting exchange about october 1914. we all know how important that date was in the history of jehovah's witnesses but what may be murkier is the wts's later thinking on what happened that month and when.
charles taze russell and his followers expected the gentile times to conclude in that month with the battle of armageddon.
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Ucantnome
There was a great burst of applause and as one person present on the occasion said later, 'We expected the table and chairs to begin rising in the air' as a sign of their being raised to heavenly life.
This reminded me of a paragraph in the book Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose (Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society 1959) page 19 where it says about 1 Corinthians 15:51,52
'it had been expected "that at some time the living saints would be suddenly and miraculously caught away bodily, thenceforth to be forever with the Lord." Believing this would take place in 1878, some were disappointed because nothing occurred that they could see.'
Pastor Russel got light on this 'Instead they would be changed instantaneously at death to be present with him. This was really an important revelation of scripture...'