I think if I was a JW I would probably pioneer or I would feel I was a hypocrite in preaching the end was so near and then not having faith in Jehovah to provide for my work needs while I helped peeple on the road to life.
I think if I was a JW I would probably pioneer or I would feel I was a hypocrite in preaching the end was so near and then not having faith in Jehovah to provide for my work needs while I helped peeple on the road to life.
i am grateful for holy spirit's ability to dredge up long-forgotten spiritual gems that lurk in dark caverns of the mind.. it has been revealed -- for your edification and enlightenment -- that the resurrected anointed among the symbolic 24 elders do, indeed, play a vital role in the new but typically confusing developments in the world of jw theology.. in the much revered but oft maligned book, "revelation: its grand climax at hand!
" we discover the reason behind it all:.
] resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.
I think the book mentioned says the ones singing are the remaining ones of the 144,000 on the earth who are singing before those who have been resurrected.
"Obviously, then, although Revelation 14:3 says that the 144,000 have been "brought from the earth" the context depicts them as being, not on earth, but in heaven with the heavenly Lamb, Christ Jesus."
do we obsess about the jw org?
i admit i do.
the reason is that two of my offspring are still held hostages by the beliefs of the cult..
I think about the Witnesses quite a lot but I don't think I would say I obsess about JW's. I have some friends and relatives who are witnesses,
I didn't post here on this site feeling I have some responsibility to expose anything about the Witnesses or anyone else, it was just my opinions based on my knowledge and experiences in commenting on questions asked.
Since I have been posting here I think my feelings and views toward the witnesses have mellowed
recently got this email from a long-time jw friend who is still "in".thoughts on a tactful response?thanks,doc
science increasingly makes the case for god.
the odds of life existing on another planet grow ever longer.. intelligent design, anyone?.
recently got this email from a long-time jw friend who is still "in".thoughts on a tactful response?thanks,doc
science increasingly makes the case for god.
the odds of life existing on another planet grow ever longer.. intelligent design, anyone?.
I read this article on the internet about ancient planets here
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26856-ancient-planets-are-almost-as-old-as-the-universe.html?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC%257CNSNS%257C2014-GLOBAL-hoot#.VMeNxWazWUl here's a quote from it.
"These planets mean it only took the universe a couple billion years to figure out how to build rocky planets, and they've been around for a really long time," says Travis Metcalfe at the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colorado. While Kepler 444's planets are too hot for life, its age suggests there might be cooler, older worlds elsewhere. "If life needs a long time to develop or lots of places to try to develop, having rocky planets this early in the history of the galaxy means planets with advanced civilisations should be everywhere."
I thought it was interesting and may relate to the thread.
i'm not really sure as to what category that i should put this into, so i'll just try, and put it here.
this is based upon a posting that i saw and read on facebook recently.
and, the question is: what if life---as you know it---was just one big dream?
i find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.
it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?
" and the man says "whats an rdo?".
So when I see you men saying I first left Watchtower in such and such year? That right there tells me, you never have been "watchtower" because the terminology, ex or not, is wrong.
I don't believe I have ever said I left the 'Watchtower' although at a meeting with some elders some time before I left one of the elders commented something like 'lets see what mother says' referring to the Watchtower. I always viewed Jehovah as our heavenly father and I think my not being a Witness would be viewed by some as leaving Jehovah (father) and if the organization is referred to as my mother and the Watchtower is her speaking then I suppose I could say I left the Watchtower. What do you think atheist_R_stupid ?
what type of faith do you really want?
For me it wasn't about what type of faith I wanted it was more to do with what my conscience would allow me to do in regard to my faith.
this just came to me, must have been mentioned before, right?.
the name of the group is a lie!!.
we all announced and taught that we were "jehovah's witnesses".. i'm struggling to find more words right now..
Kairos in the book Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of God's Kingdom published 1993 Watch Tower. Page 12/13 after quotes about the meaning of witness, it says
So a witness relates facts from direct personal knowledge, or he proclaims views or truths of which he is convinced
i think it is from this point of view that I was a Witness and why I am no longer, because I am not convinced.
i keep reading that jehovah's witnesses are in effect monsters.
i keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake.
so i simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?.
I keep reading that Jehovah's Witnesses are in effect monsters. I keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake. So I simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?
I didn't leave the witnesses because I thought 'Jehovah's Witnesses are in effect monsters'. It could be viewed that I left so that I would not upset the peace of the congregation. At the time of my leaving I had a lot of unanswered questions and although I spoke to the elders in the congregation the questions remained.
My posting on this site is not to try and portray Jehovah's Witnesses as monsters. I still know some Witnesses and talk to them and sometimes they come to my door. A few years ago I have some conversations on a regular basis with an elder. We had disagreement on various things but the discussion was interesting and I learnt some things that I hadn't realised before.
As my family and I were Witnesses for many years I think we were people who were trying to lead decent lives while we joined in the preaching work. I think that is true of most Witnesses that I met.
Having said that I still have disagreement with some of the teachings and so voice my opinions on the various topics whether on here or when Witnesses ask me questions.
if you do believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.
if you don't believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.
on a personal note, there are many things that i can't help but notice that coincide with what the apostle paul wrote to timothy in his second letter chapter 3 regarding tough times:.
a quote from the article
“It’s clear the economic system is driving us towards an unsustainable future and people of my daughter’s generation will find it increasingly hard to survive,” he said. “History has shown that civilisations have risen, stuck to their core values and then collapsed because they didn’t change. That’s where we are today.” (Prof Will Steffen of the Australian National University and the Stockholm Resilience Centre.)
I think that maybe/could what the apostle Paul wrote have an application to all christians that number into the billions today and are in many lands some predominantly christian?