Posts by Ucantnome

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Why do people "come back"?

by kairos in

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i know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.. how does this happen?.

i personally know of one example where a father of three, leaves jws, abandons wife and family, lives as a gay man then comes back 20 years later as a partaking member of the anointed..

what was the " good reason " you left the Witnesses ? I no longer felt convinced about the events associated with 1914 after reading a Watchtower. I thought my problems would be resolved in time, however they were not. I felt I could not join in with the preaching and my life needed to change somewhat. The changes meant less meetings. Although at first I had no intention of leaving, it soon became clear it was probably for the best.

And if you left for a " good reason " what would make you return ? I think some on this site have commented that the Witnesses as a religion seem quite different now than some years ago. There has been changes I believe over the years. These changes may continue until it reaches a point that I may feel differently about the preaching work.

When I first started to post on this site a few years ago I felt differently about the Witnesses than I do now, I was more anti witness. I have defined more clearly in my mind what I agree or disagree with and how far my conscience would allow me to return if I had the desire to return. My situation in life could change and I may feel that attending the hall could meet my needs at the time.

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Why do people "come back"?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.. how does this happen?.

i personally know of one example where a father of three, leaves jws, abandons wife and family, lives as a gay man then comes back 20 years later as a partaking member of the anointed..

Ucantnome

Personally I don't think I could return and be a " glutton for punishment " as the JW's I know would make me feel guilty for having been out for so long- Oh sure, I'd be love bombed once I got back in , but after that all the DEMANDS of being a JW and the guilt and fear would be re-indoctrinated into my mind. I couldn't put myself through that. I guess I cannot understand the reasons anybody would put themselves through that. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

When I returned I wouldn't say I was loved bombed. I also didn't feel any guilt for having been out for so long. I left for good reason and my return did not mean that I had changed my view. It was just something I needed to do at the time I felt very relaxed at the hall more so than when I was a witness. The actual going to the hall was never easy for me when I as a witness, although I believed and never thought the day would come when I was not a witness, it felt about the same going to the hall years later.

As for the future I have no way of knowing what I will do or not do but as I have had the experience of being sure that I would not leave the witnesses and have, I wouldn't rule out a return under certain circumstances

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Why do people "come back"?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.. how does this happen?.

i personally know of one example where a father of three, leaves jws, abandons wife and family, lives as a gay man then comes back 20 years later as a partaking member of the anointed..

Ucantnome

I know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.

How does this happen?

The reasons people go back are varied I believe and no one can really know why a person returns but the person themselves. I returned at one point after having left for some time and may do again in the future for different reasons than I did the first time.

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Please help me figure out my dreams

by Socrateswannabe in

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friends

hi everyone, this may be the stupidest post ever.

i am stumped for an answer and would love to hear your opinions, though.

every week or two for the last couple of years, i have a dream--or at least that's what i'm calling it--that consists of me waking up or thinking that i've waked up, and seeing the ceiling of my darkened bedroom filled with algebraic equations.

Ucantnome

Thanks Village Idiot, I have read similar before this wasn't sleep paralysis just dreams. I could move.

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Please help me figure out my dreams

by Socrateswannabe in

jw
friends

hi everyone, this may be the stupidest post ever.

i am stumped for an answer and would love to hear your opinions, though.

every week or two for the last couple of years, i have a dream--or at least that's what i'm calling it--that consists of me waking up or thinking that i've waked up, and seeing the ceiling of my darkened bedroom filled with algebraic equations.

Ucantnome

Village Idiot I knew I awake, so to speak, in a dream and just before I woke I'd seen some real ugly characters so I wasn't in the mood to go through the door, maybe next time.

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Please help me figure out my dreams

by Socrateswannabe in

jw
friends

hi everyone, this may be the stupidest post ever.

i am stumped for an answer and would love to hear your opinions, though.

every week or two for the last couple of years, i have a dream--or at least that's what i'm calling it--that consists of me waking up or thinking that i've waked up, and seeing the ceiling of my darkened bedroom filled with algebraic equations.

Ucantnome

I've had a couple of lucid dreams. last one I woke up in a small darkish room in a single bed and knew it wasn't real I called my wife and she answered me from beyond the closed blackish bedroom door and wanted me to join her. I declined as I knew it wasn't real and felt I shouldn't. had a little difficulty getting back.

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Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...

by roberto avon in

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friends

did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???

?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.

after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.

Ucantnome

Harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon

I think that to be a 'witness' one had to believe and have faith in the good news regarding the establishment of God's kingdom in 1914 and the elevation of the 'Servant' mentioned in Isaiah to the throne of the Messianic Kingdom so that they could join with the anointed remnant in the preaching and so by doing be a witness.

As a witness and recognising Matthew 24:14 as being fulfilled all the other beliefs followed which included the appointment of the 'faithful slave class' and the role assigned to them.

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Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...

by roberto avon in

jw
friends

did you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???

?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.

after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.

Ucantnome

I believed in 1975 we were 6000 years into the 7th creative day and that the generation that saw the events of 1914 would not pass away before the end came.

When 1975 went I had no doubts regarding the 'truth' as I believed as the light gets brighter things become more clear and there had been things in the past like 1925.

I believed that it was right to join the anointed in the preaching work before the Great Tribulation strikes.

My belief came from study and personal experiences. In the early 90's it changed and I felt I could no longer be 100% sure in my mind of what I was preaching due to a Watchtower article that related to an experience in the ministry and so I stopped.

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Paranormal Witness

by Clambake in

does anyone watch this show?

it literally scares the hell of out of me..

does anyone here have an interest in the paranormal, demonology , ghosts or general weird stuff.

Ucantnome

I've never seen the show that you mention. however I have watched a few horror movies and shows with supernatural things in them. often times I tend to find that they make me laugh.

On occasions, two that I can think of, I've turned the programme off. One was a radio programme and the other a video on the computer. they seemed to reach some part of me that the others didn't.

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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

by JWCartPusher in

hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

Ucantnome

How do I keep my faith?

for me not a lot changed other than i could not support the preaching of the 'good news' as a witness.