no one.
losing ones beliefs can be difficult, some fare worse than others i think
Ucantnome
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Who would you like to hear of leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses ?
by wozza ini'll start off with this one:.
some years ago when i was formulating my exit, i employed for some time an ms brother from another congregation.. i'd had a couple of young "worldly" lads work for me but they proved unreliable as they used drugs or alchohol and consequently would'nt arrive at work and such like.. so when i was was contacted by this brother and spoke to him and heard he'd worked at the australian bethel for some time on construction and wanted an opportunity to learn the trade of bricklaying ,i thought ,"great someone to finally trust and be reliable".
he was in his 40's at the time and he worked like a trojan ,was honest ,really likeable and interesting ,could play the classical guitar beautifully ,had a beautiful family.
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Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?
by John Aquila inhow many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.
how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.
how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.
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Ucantnome
i didn't wake up i wasn't asleep. i didn't put effort in. it was more like my wife saying turn left at the lights and i knew to turn right.
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Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO
by freemindfade inso i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.
yesterday i went for the co's last talks.
older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-11-2015 WT Study (EXPECTATION)
by blondie inblondies highlights from the10-11-2015 wt study (august 15, 2015), pages (14-18) .
for pictures see this link.
opening comments.
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'That in itself is a good reason to remain in expectation—Jesus told us to do so! In this regard, Jehovah’s organization has set an example. Its publications have consistently exhorted us to “await and keep close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah” and to fix our hope on God’s promised new world'
I find this comment from the Watchtower March 15 1980 page 17/18 regarding 1975 interesting.
6 In its issue of July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated: “If anyone has been disappointed through not following this line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his own understanding was based on wrong premises.” In saying “anyone,” The Watchtower included all disappointed ones of Jehovah’s Witnesses, hence including persons having to do with the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date.
and the question to the paragraph was
Did the information in the July 15,1976, Watchtower endeavor to lay the responsibility for such expectation solely or primarily on its readers? Explain.
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Why some are religious or not?
by Vidqun intime article: several years before pope francis became pope of the catholic church in 2013, psychologists began to debunk the idea that being more educated meant a person was less likely to be religious.
instead, a new social psychology theoryone that had little to do with education levelarose.
according to dual process theory, people are either deliberative or intuitive when they make decisions.
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Ucantnome
Hence we come across some very well educated people, able to use Critical Thinking skills in their professional life, who are still believers in some very dodgy nonsense.
The difficulty is to get such people to apply the skills they have to their "beliefs".Some people have university degrees in theology and apply the skills to their religious beliefs and still remain believers I would imagine that they have critical thinking skills and are intelligent people.
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The right to shun - wrong?
by Simon inmany people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.
it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.
of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.
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Kick Back and Relax to Some Music
by Finkelstein inthat's right folks time to kick back , pour a cold one and in take in some tunes.. what are you listening to right now ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu87294pvx8.
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Ucantnome
i wake up to mozart's turkish march
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Kick Back and Relax to Some Music
by Finkelstein inthat's right folks time to kick back , pour a cold one and in take in some tunes.. what are you listening to right now ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu87294pvx8.
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What is your purpose or what do you wish to accomplish while a member of this board?
by Tenacious inwhen i joined this forum i was seeking more people who felt the same way i did in terms of seeing the jehovah's witness organization for what it truly was; a false prophet.. once i found like-minded members i slowly started to open up and participate more in trying to help others that were also exiting mentally and physically.
today, i offer support to anyone who desires it regardless of what they believe or not believe.. so what is your purpose on this board?.
support?
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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian
by Perry ina lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.
is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?
what exactly makes someone a christian?
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Ucantnome
'I guess for a fundamentalist Christian that believes following their specific form of Christianity is essential for salvation, then it is essential for every JW to leave and convert to their fundamentalist viewpoint. I find such a concept simply offensive'
This sounds similar to your mother's belief as a JW, I think. However offensive you find it you feel it is better to stay a JW I would think.
I agree with you. I can think of someone who has lost a loved one and finds the resurrection hope that they have, having been raised as a JW a great comfort and I wouldn't want to cause that person any more distress by causing them to question their belief and maybe even to lose their belief in God and there are older people who have a lifetime of commitment and change can be very difficult.
On the other hand some years ago before I left the Witnesses I had a discussion with a sister (elders daughter) along the same lines as Perry's thread and whether she was covered by Christ's sacrifice.
I understand the New Covenant is the agreement between God and Man with Christ as mediator and those that were called Christians in the first century were in it and partook of the bread and the wine. I would think that in the first century a person wouldn't be viewed as a Christian ,when the term was first used, if they had a view like most JW but I could be wrong.
It's a bit like my father who believed that the generation that saw the events of 1914 would not pass away before the end came. I remember as a child him discussing it in the door to door witnessing. He would never grow old an die. Unfortunately that was not the case and he has been cremated. Although he believed he was assisting Christ's brothers in the preaching work as he understood them to be 'the mouthpiece of God' God didn't see fit to uphold his belief and he died. I find it doesn't inspire confidence in any other explanations that he may have had.