I quite like Slade's Merry Christmas Everybody
.Hate Christmas
a catchy little number this one!
curiously, this little known christmas song by perry como was actually the theme tune to the odessa file movie back in the 70's.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l1uddoh-yu.
so what have you got?.
I quite like Slade's Merry Christmas Everybody
.Hate Christmas
i've found it interesting that- imho- most of the politically vocal ex-jw's at this website seem to lean left.
i'm personally pretty centered- right on some issues, left on others, but overall have a pretty cynical view of all political/religious leaders.
i find it somewhat ironic that people who leave such a dogmatic group like the witnesses become so politically dogmatic.
so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.
the un membership.
the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.
i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?
does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?
i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!
hi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
1) raised
2) 1971
4) 1996 (first elder visit 1994 last 1996 they have visited many times over the years)
25 years.
(I know of two people who have that's say, woken up. Both use the internet and are familiar with what is available on there. I had the internet around 1990 and I would think similar of them. However if both were to leave today there would be 30/40 years between baptism and leaving and neither are citing the internet as the reason for their waking and its nothing to do with me one. I don't know of any others personally. One was raised and one was a convert.)
the above is a quote from a jw female relative.
this was in response to a discussion about the suffragette movement ( and the movie about it that's currently in cinemas).
she seemed to think that it would be so much better if women were just daughters/ wives/ mothers and didn't go out to work and have career's?
i have made every meal in our house for the past twenty years. I have done the shopping the cleaning the gardening the washing the banking painted the house and worked in my own business. I got up most nights when the kids were small one woke me every night almost for five years. i walked the dog fed the rabbits and cat. I have also worked for employers.
I think its easy staying home looking after the kids and running the house and if i had a choice not to work and stay home and run the house that is what i would do.
that's why my daughter is choosing it.
the above is a quote from a jw female relative.
this was in response to a discussion about the suffragette movement ( and the movie about it that's currently in cinemas).
she seemed to think that it would be so much better if women were just daughters/ wives/ mothers and didn't go out to work and have career's?
we have done this before but we have a fair number of newbie's on this site and some are struggling with the question about other belief systems and non belief.
where are you now in your own mind?
here's a quiz http://www.selectsmart.com/nontheism/ that is pretty accurate, at least in my case as to where i am at this point in my life.
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
What is the alternative to JW?
so assuming that there is a creator and he wrote the Bible, where have JWs gone wrong?
Is it possible that they are nearest to the truth than any other religions? But yes there are mistakes made.
For me the alternative was simply not joining in the preaching any more as I was not convinced of the message due to my reading the Watchtower. I attempted via the elders and writing to the Society to answer my questions but as I found them unable to I had no other choice but to quit.
For the sake of the peace of the congregation and my own peace of mind it was best for me not to attend the meetings any longer. I would have felt a hypocrite if I did not speak my mind to others if asked my views on things and my actions in staying a JW and raising the children as JW whilst not subscribing to what I consider one of the primary beliefs wasn't really an option.We had to make choices concerning what was best for our family with regard to work and education once we had stopped.
I still belief in God and Christianity and live my life to the best of my abilities in accord with my belief. I do not at this point believe that the JW are the closest to the truth as I do not support their preaching work.
(I suppose when you use the word the 'truth' I define that as the truth about the good news, being in the truth or having the truth)
it was always boring, and i was afraid that i was gonna get attacked by a dog.
i actually almost got attacked by a rottweiler once.
i didnt get paid for it, nobody listened to us, i actually had guys make passes at me while i was out doing street corner, i was always afraid i would get grouped and raped.
I was a regular pioneer at times and I understood the field service was preaching the good news of God's kingdom.
At times I worked alone and sometimes in extreme heat or cold. There were times that I enjoyed, occasionally having a conversation with someone about the bible or working with the brothers and sisters in the field. Although many of the hours were boring with a lot of people not home or not interested.
I was never slow in ministry once I was counseled that I was working the blocks too fast and to slow down , I knew of some who moved very slowly
I was chased by a big dog once,I was faster fortunately.