Posts by Ucantnome

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

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well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

People based big decisions in there life on these truths that were shared. Some people didn't have children, gave up education, moved somewhere cheaper to have a more active share in the work, didn't take pensions.

They told us that they were typified in the bible by Ezekiel. They were doing a work like he was. He was specific with the destruction of Jerusalem and vindicated as prophet when it occurred. In the same book they said

'Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern anti-type of Jerusalem, Christendom'

They weren't like Ezekiel. They weren't vindicated.

maybe you where one whose strong faith moved them to a more active share or maybe you were doing a crossword puzzle with your pencil.

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

jw
friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

If you need exactly what the Bible means in its entirety in one shot to have faith, ok, or maybe you are looking for excuses.

I'm not talking about this. I'm talking about preaching the end will come in the twentieth century, within a generation,

saying that you are God's mouthpiece when these are said and tying them to the Good News and later finding it doesn't occur which damages faith.

In the Kingdom Ministry Oct 1974 back page under Presenting The Good News it talks about the "Eternal Purpose" book and how it can be used in the ministry. This book gave the date of the 7th creative day starting and half-way point, saying Armageddon would come before the last thousand years, the reign of Christ.

This was part of our witnessing, our lives depended preaching this. Is this what you refer to as something pencilled in. Subject to change if it doesn't quite happen.

Nothing to do with pencilling in crossword puzzles.

Yes I was a Witness

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

jw
friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

Fisherman I used the word guessing because you made reference to doing a puzzle and using a pencil so that the answer could be erased which suggested that it was a guess and you were not sure.

Yes I was a Witness you misunderstood.

I'm not particularly interested in whether a person is claiming to be guided by Holy spirit or inspired

In the book Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of God's Kingdom page 11/12 it says

'So a witness relates facts from direct personal knowledge, or he proclaims views or truths of which he is convinced'

When my parents became Witnesses they recieved and studied the Look booklet which I no longer have but found on the internet and I quote from.

Here http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/booklets/look.html

Your safety and the whole future of yourself and your family depend on now studying the Bible, associating with the New World society of Jehovah's witnesses, dedicating yourself to your Creator, Jehovah God, and witnessing for him. Do not let the pursuit of material things or the cares of life rob you of this wonderful opportunity of life.

and this quote from the Watchtower years later

"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19

For my parents to be Jehovah's Witnesses they needed to witness as the name suggests. They needed to be convinced they had the truth. This they received from the modern day Ezekiel class. ('Since Ezekiel himself was a "portent" or a "sign" (AV) of someone to come, and since he was not a type or prophetic figure of Jesus Christ , whom did the prophet Ezekiel typify in carrying out his divine commission?' Nations shall know that I am Jehovah pg 56/57) Their lives and the lives of their children depended on witnessing. And you mention pencilling in some ideas in a crossword.

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Death of a loved one and faith

by ilikecheese in

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hey all.

i haven't posted in forever and a day, but i feel like this is a great place to ask this question because of so many people who are unsure of their beliefs.

my mom was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer about four years ago.

Ucantnome

Why did you decide it was all real or all fake?

A sad time when someone dies and someone being diagnosed with cancer and then living with it is difficult.

I still have faith that it is 'all real' and I was surprised when I came on this site and found lots don't after being a Witness.

There is someone that I know who is struggling with their faith and belief in God and I said they should speak to the elders which they did. One of the elders is quite elderly and he gave a couple of experiences in his life that helped him have faith. It didn't help much from what I was told, the person hadn't had the same experiences themselves . My experiences and my reasons I don't think will help either. I don't know if there is just one thing although sometimes I think there is.

I have always found prayer helpful.

As others have said I am sorry to hear of your loss

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

jw
friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

I had faith

also as a witness i understood you had to be sure of what you were talking about. not guessing. if they didn't know what they were talking about they shouldn't have referred to themselves as a prophet like Ezekiel.

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

jw
friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

But JW have done no wrong in adjusting their beliefs in light of facts and clearer understanding. The Bible is written in the form of an ironic poem crossword puzzle and there is nothing bad or wrong in not understanding it all but trying to solve. If you have ever done a crozzword puzzle you know that you have to write with a pencil.

When I have done a crossword puzzle or some other puzzle it was a bit of fun my life didn't depend on getting it right. I viewed being a JW and what we were preaching as much more important than puzzles.

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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

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it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".

"is he 'in the truth'?".

most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.

Ucantnome

I used the term, The Truth, to refer to someone who was in the religion JW.

Now that Truth I think of in terms of the truth of the good news about Christ and my opinion of the good news is now different from when I was a Witness.

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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

by Heisenberg in

they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

Ucantnome

A person who happened to have his wishes met, see this as evidence of God's existence.

i dont think it is always your wishes

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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

by Heisenberg in

they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

Ucantnome

I am OK to not have free will if it means I will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.

As I've never been in this state as I understand it I don't feel I could agree

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Are You Raising An Introvert?

by darth frosty in

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its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

Ucantnome

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