I wouldn't describe myself as zealous or lazy. I pioneered I thought that's what was expected. I didn't feel I had to like it. I met the requirements. As a publisher I was regular. As a kid in high school I went out in field service after school. I witnessed at school and my work place and a few came to the hall but not many.
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Thankfully not many publishers remind " me" of Troy.
by The Rebel ini took my son to the watford football club family day,-and the highlight- troy deeney.
he stayed until every last item was signed and every selfie was taken.
we left way after the end of the event and he left after us.
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Paranormal Warning
by Cold Steel ini've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
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For those born into the religion, do you think the Society's emphasis on the paranormal or on demons affect your religious beliefs when you were young or tended to assist the Society in exerting control on your beliefs? Do you think it made you more fearful as a child or as an adult?
Maybe to a degree but I never gave it a lot of thought. As a preschool child my mother would take me to her bible study with someone who had problems with the paranormal and I recieved toys from them. My mother nearly died at the time as she became very ill. I didn't have any problems due to the toys myself. It didn't leave me with any fear.
It was some years later a different series of events that left we with a certain fear but I wouldn't say that it was the Society. I think that maybe my view of some religious people that I met in the field service was influenced by the Societies teachings as to whether I accepted anything from them or even listened to them.
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Young JW's attitudes
by Phizzy ini met an old friend last evening, a great guy, an xjw for longer than me.. during a conversation about our experiences since fading (neither of us are da'd or anything) we got to talking about the young jw's.. his wife is still in, and he has two lovely daughters who he is trying to teach the art of critical thinking so that they can make the right choice in the future.. what worries him though is that he is convinced almost all young jw's do not give a "proverbial" if it is the truth or not, they simply wish to remain in it because of the social aspects, loads of friends and activities that they feel safe partaking in etc etc.. so how do you convince these young people that they would have a better life if they left ?.
they see it as losing all their friends, and being alone and trying to build new relationships, which is mostly true.. how do we convince them to make the leap ?.
should they ?.
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What worries him though is that he is convinced almost all young JW's do not give a "proverbial" if it is the Truth or not, they simply wish to remain in it because of the social aspects, loads of friends and activities that they feel safe partaking in etc etc.
My wife and I have made similar comments to each other but not particularly regarding the young just younger than us.
Although i had disagreements with my parents they raised us to be in the truth because it was the truth and nothing to do with friendships or how much fun we could have and i agreed with that. In all honesty I found very little enjoyment with associating with the congregation.
How do we convince them to make the Leap ?
Should they ?
I don't really feel that it is anything to do with me how they view their dedication and I wouldn't try to convince them of anything. I would only explain my views if they question me.
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Paranormal Warning
by Cold Steel ini've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
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I have watched some movies like The Conjuring and others some good some not so good. I don't find that they scare me in any way. I did find some thing on youtube that did and also a recording played on the radio. Seemed to reach a different part of me.
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Paranormal Warning
by Cold Steel ini've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
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I still have my fears
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This generation will by no means pass away
by Darryl ingood morning i hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
there has been a lot of talk about the "new light" concerning the generation teaching.
it's been a major part of the prophecy concerning the last days and of course since jws are the only ones able to decipher and understand prophecy it is of great importance to get this main prophecy right.
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This generation will by no means pass away
I think these quotes from the 1960's are interesting with regard to the belief at the time and our faith.
Watchtower September 1st 1969 page 532.
'Jehovah has made many promises of things yet to occur, One may hope that such things will come to pass, but such expression may only be a whimsical wish, not real faith. Faith is more than just an expectation. It is expectation that is assured to such a degree that it is able to support , uphold and guarantee that what is hoped for will become a reality. This is the meaning of hypostasis, a word common in ancient papyrus business documents in reference to guarantees placed on the transactions.
...Substantially the words [hy.po’sta.sis and e’leg.khos] mean that faith gives to things future, which as yet are only hoped for, all the reality of actual present existence,; and irresistibly convinces us of the reality of things unseen and brings us into their presence.” The Expositor’s Greek Testament, Vol.IV page 352.Watchtower July 15th 1961 page 423
‘And since faith is also “the assured expectation of things hoped for,” it follows that we must also have knowledge of what are the things we may and should hope for. Again, God’s Word provides us with the needed knowledge. It assures us that paradisiac conditions will be restored to this earth, and that on a world-wide scale, and that this restoration work can be expected to begin within the present generation.’ -
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How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75
by dogon ini have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
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I have argued with several JWs who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?
Usually I show them the book God's Eternal Purpose Now Triumphing for Man's Good (1974 WTB&TS) Page 51 there is the subheading "Evening of the Seventh Creative Day begins 4026 B.C.E."
and page 131 paragraph 5 where it states,
"The first half or 'evening' period of God's seventh creative 'day' was now closing, 3,500 years from the creation of Adam and Eve. The morning of this creative 'day' was due to begin at 526 B.C.E."
This was under the heading, "Morning of the seventh Creative day begins 526 B.C.E."
and explain that from this I understand that the seventh creative day began in 4026 BCE and is 7000 year in length.Then show page 186 where it says
"With all his earthly seed destroyed at Har-Magedon," it then asks the question "Are the original serpent and his invisible demonic seed to be left on the loose in the vicinity of our earth down to which they have been ousted from heaven? No!"
"By removing the Serpent and his demons from the nieghborhood of the earth and hurling them into the abyss and sealing them up there, bound as with chains for the next thousand years. Revelation 20:1-3 pictures this, not as a part of the war at Har-magedon, but as a follow up of that war." (Bold mine)and then page 190 says,
"...God's seventh creative day will end up blessed, sacred, sanctified. Jehovah having blessed that day six thousand years ago..."
Explaining that 6000 years from 4026 takes you to the autumn of 1975 with the last thousand years of the devil being abyssed after Har-megedon.
This explains about the year zero
In the August 15 1968 Watchtower in the Article Why are you looking forward to 1975?
page 499
Well, for one thing, if 4026 is added to 1968 (allowing for the lack of a zero year between C.E. and B.C.E ) one gets a total of 5,993 years, come this autumn from Adam's creation. That means that, in the fall of the year 1975, a little over seven years from now..., it will be 6,000 years since the creation of Adam,
Then I say that in 1974 this was the lastest information that I believe we had, I was keeping up with my spiritual food and acting in accordance with it in pioneering.
In the September 1974 KM in the letter talking of the Divine Purpose district Assembly and this book it says,
'Have you finished reading these exciting new publications? If not, we urge you to do so without delay. Don't put this off until the material is covered in the series of public talks that are to be given. The information these books contain you need to know now.'
In the October KM 1974 there was the feature on the back page Presenting the Good News, with the "Eternal Purpose Book. Which as a pioneer I was doing and remember a fellow pioneer telling me how he had shared this good news with his study.
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Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs
by slimboyfat inthey have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.
some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.
1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.
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were the book study groups attendance better than other meetings? I don't know.
I always disliked that meeting the most and when I heard it was gone I wished they had done it sooner.
Some of the years I was a JW we had the book study at the KH, I preferred it there than in a home.
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What's your passion???
by Faith after Deception inyesterday, i was feeling very blue.
this is quite unusual for me, as i tend to be quite an upbeat, positive person, so spells of sadness or depression take me by surprise and are a real shock to the system.
you know, i don’t believe in “putting on a face” or pretending to be ok; this “fake it ’til you make it” malarkey has never been something i’ve liked.
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What the Org Teaches #4 There Are Two Ways to Get Sins Wiped Out
by The Searcher in#4 there are two ways to get sins wiped outthe following five scriptures lay the foundation stone of christianity, namely, that christ died for people's sins.
virtually every christian denomination on earth accepts these bible statements without question: .
(matthew 26:28) "....this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.
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in Romans 6:7 I think the Greek word translates as justified or similar.
in receiving the payment of death isn't this just from Gods view especially as Witnesses do not believe in hell?