Posts by Ucantnome

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If the Org. confessed they were not God's org. Would you still be there and was that the main reason you stayed

by tor1500 in

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i know you know who i am by now...the one that forgets to use paragraphs...anyway, all over all the jw sites (not jw.org).

it's been asked if you knew this or that why did you stay...it's been discussed how no matter what you hit the friends with, failed dated, new lights, pedophiles, etc, yet they stay and you can't reason with them....so what i've come up with is that most stay because they feel it's god's org.

and they were chosen in place of the jews.

Ucantnome

I recently said to someone that I feel it was inevitable that although I was raised a JW that I would ultimately leave.

Although I felt I had and have a love for God I never liked the organisation, going to the meetings, the assemblies, the idea of being a servant or elder, answering at meetings, the idea of bethel service or pioneering, etc. I felt I didn't understand a lot of the deeper things, I didn't enjoy bible reading reading or studying, I didn't like some bible characters, I felt I liked Peter most didn't like Paul. (I enjoy reading Paul's writings now)

My actions I think showed it was inevitable. I did pioneer but I never would have done it without the encouragement of my relatives. I wasn't good at it, some still laugh about it. When I was old enough I didn't attend the summer assemblies, I slipped into the meetings as they started and slipped out as they ended. As an adult I never even carried the roving microphone although asked (sometimes they are willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel if it's a necessity). I was seldom on the school and didn't own a suit.

However I stayed as believed it was God's organisation and so if they said they weren't I would have left sooner.

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I am a Living Time Machine

by TerryWalstrom in

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which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

everywhere you found telephone booths!

a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

Ucantnome

time is weird

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If "the Truth" is the truth, why are witnesses so scared of research?

by stuckinarut2 in

it is an often asked question i know, but it perplexes me.. if witnesses are so convinced that they have "the truth", why is the act of researching information from external sources so taboo?

didn't the bible itself tell people to "use their powers of reason" and also praised ones like the boreans for researching things they were told??.

seriously, if there is no doubt about the organization being "god's channel" on earth, and it alone having the "truth", surely researching would only enhance such 'facts'?.

Ucantnome

i think its a different sort of truth

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When The Persecution Comes

by cofty in

when i was young everybody used to fantasise constantly about how brave we would all need to be "when the persecution comes".

we worried about what "they" would do to us and how we would never talk or betray other jws.

psychologically it was a damaging environment for children; but maybe that's another topic.. who would have thought that when it finally came it would take the form of being sued for protecting pedophiles.

Ucantnome

I always thought as a kid they would cut something off me and I couldn't tell a lie so I would tell them where the brothers were

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Can you live with your self?

by The Rebel in

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i think if we are to fully delight in life we must live without detachment.

because when we become attached to a beliief we feel a desire that we are right.

the problem with being right, even if we are right is that our beliefs then try to attach themselfs to virgin snow, and change people to our thinking.

Ucantnome

I lived on my own for a while. I had some rooms in an otherwise empty house. No phone and fairly isolated.

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OK who threw the stink bomb in here?

by Thisismein1972 in

come on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.

this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.

😅😅😅.

Ucantnome

"Regarding the 1975 thread my stance is that while many were expecting it, it was never said to be a definite thing or was it said that Jehovah told them it would be that year."

A Believer I understood that they were commissioned to speak as a prophet in the name of Jehovah as a modern-day Ezekiel, 'commissioned to serve as the mouthpiece and active agent of Jehovah' ( The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah-How, Watchtower 1971 pg.58,59,61,62)

So I understood that what they said came from Jehovah as they were commissioned in 1919 as the mouthpiece.

So when they said in 1974 that the evening of the seventh creative day began in 4026 BCE and the halfway point of the seventh creative day 3500 years later was 526 BCE and that Armageddon would precede the last thousand years of the 7th creative day Christ's reign when the devil will be abyssed. (God's Eternal Purpose Now Triumphing For Man's Good, Watchtower 1974 pg.51,131,132,186,189) I understood that I was listening to a prophet speaking in the name of Jehovah, his mouthpiece and I acted upon what I heard.

If you do the math I believe for this to be correct the only time that Armageddon could occur would be between the release of the book in the summer of 1974 and the autumn of 1975.

This book was offered in the field service, studied at the group study and some talks given on a Sunday were based upon it I believe and so I ate the spiritual food. This was some years after the 1968 publication where it mentioned 1975 and was the most up to date spiritual food. Now the dates look a bit off?

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

Ucantnome

I may be wrong but I think that Matthew 18:18 is applied to disfellowshipping and it is sort of past tense they are only carrying out what has already been bound in heaven and so it would seem to me to make their decisions infallible say on blood transfusions.

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Successes you enjoyed since leaving the Org

by Tallon in

thought i would start a discussion, and hopefully a positive one, on what successes you’ve enjoyed since leaving the org.. each of us is different as people, in life experiences etc.

however we all share one common factor in that we have all experienced the negativity, to a greater or lesser degree, of being a jw and the org.. each success is worth celebrating so i invite you to share some of your achievements.

it does not matter how ‘big or small’ it is, share it with us.. my achievement means a great deal to me both personally and professionally.

Ucantnome

my kids got a better education than I did.

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Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

by nicolaou in

jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

Ucantnome

what do you mean? maybe you are right.

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Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

by nicolaou in

jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

Ucantnome

jwstudy

If you say "JW are not based on the teaching of Jesus Christ because Jesus never teach 1914 and ..".

The same is true of "Catholic are not Christian because Jesus never teach purgatory ...".

I think the difference to me is that the teaching about 1914 is the good news that is being declared in fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 and tied to Romans 10:16,17 and therefore the servant in Isaiah 52/53 as was the good news declared by the apostle Paul whereas I don't think that purgatory is (I could be wrong). As a christian I think our faith and salvation is tied to the good news and needs to be true.