Ucant - Do you mind if I ask what that 1 thing was?
sorry the answer vanished when I posted it
i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.
in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.
i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.
Ucant - Do you mind if I ask what that 1 thing was?
sorry the answer vanished when I posted it
i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.
in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.
i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.
did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?
i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.
i couldn't imagine.
the may 15 1969 Watchtower lists the Assembly at Wembley July 29-Aug 3
I remember I was quite excited and wanted to get the new publications. A friend had been to the one in New York already.
we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.
lol. Breaking bad was a great show. I had to wear all the protective gear hated it.
we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.
I washed test tubes and flasks some with acid for hours in a small windowless room on my own.
did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?
i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.
i couldn't imagine.
I think 1969 at Wembley started on a wet Tuesday and ended the following Sunday We attended all of it. 1963 I think was eight days my mother was ill so we didn't go to all of it.
so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.
i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.
some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.
'@Ucantnome I have a very good JW childhood friend who is still in (although probably considered a weak JW). She also tells me she doesn't know or not know if it's the "truth". It doesn't seem to make a difference for her. It's just a social club.'
My comment in my previous post, 'Coming to a conclusion that it isn't the 'truth' isn't something I feel in a position to make.'
I never viewed my being a Witness as being part of a social club, it was my religion. I viewed it as the true religion. When I used the expression someone was 'in the truth' I usually was referring to them as being a JW. The true church or congregation I understood was the anointed 144,000 and I was associating with them.
The primary evidence of this anointing and knowing that they have a heavenly calling I understood was based on having the spirit and a sense of sonship. (Romans 8:15-17, Galatians 4;6,7)
I don't feel that I can say they have or don't have it, I think it is personal to them. All I can say is that I will not join with them in the preaching work as I am not convinced of what I understand the message to be because of what they taught me and changed. Therefore I am no longer a witness but they may still be the anointed. That is my view.
just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
a conversation about Kant
so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.
i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.
some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.
I didn't really stay in "even when you knew it wasn't the 'truth'"
I was raised in the truth with strict parents and left school and pioneered, I left over 20years ago. When I stopped preaching, two things were involved. One, I couldn't preach something I was unsure of and the other was it occurred at a time in my life where it was easier to change.
There was a period where I tried to resolve the problem (doctrinal) that I had and thought things may change. This was about 2 years. Going in field service stopped immediately and meeting attendance became less frequent. At first, the meeting attendance diminished due to a change in our circumstances brought about by the 'problem' and later due to the reaction of the elders in taking six months to visit me although I had requested it.
Coming to a conclusion that it isn't the 'truth' isn't something I feel in a position to make.
....................then you couldn't have been "in the truth" nor was "the truth in you" until july 2013, because that month's watchtower was dedicated to reversing the following 8 "truths" and replacing them with opposing "truths".
you'd been believing and teaching falsehoods.. these are for any new members and those j.w.
's who visit here who have not seen this list before.
Searcher I thought this was changed in 1970 . 'The Great Tribulation started in 1914 & ended in 1918. (page 3, par 3' am I wrong?