Posts by Ucantnome

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what type of faith do you REALLY want?

by atheist_R_stupid in

i find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.

it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?

" and the man says "whats an rdo?".

Ucantnome

So when I see you men saying I first left Watchtower in such and such year? That right there tells me, you never have been "watchtower" because the terminology, ex or not, is wrong.

I don't believe I have ever said I left the 'Watchtower' although at a meeting with some elders some time before I left one of the elders commented something like 'lets see what mother says' referring to the Watchtower. I always viewed Jehovah as our heavenly father and I think my not being a Witness would be viewed by some as leaving Jehovah (father) and if the organization is referred to as my mother and the Watchtower is her speaking then I suppose I could say I left the Watchtower. What do you think atheist_R_stupid ?

what type of faith do you really want?

For me it wasn't about what type of faith I wanted it was more to do with what my conscience would allow me to do in regard to my faith.

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But, no one has ever ACTUALLY "Witnessed Jehovah"!

by kairos in

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friends

this just came to me, must have been mentioned before, right?.

the name of the group is a lie!!.

we all announced and taught that we were "jehovah's witnesses".. i'm struggling to find more words right now..

Ucantnome

Kairos in the book Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of God's Kingdom published 1993 Watch Tower. Page 12/13 after quotes about the meaning of witness, it says

So a witness relates facts from direct personal knowledge, or he proclaims views or truths of which he is convinced

i think it is from this point of view that I was a Witness and why I am no longer, because I am not convinced.

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Why I like Jehovah's Witnesses

by undercover witness in

i keep reading that jehovah's witnesses are in effect monsters.

i keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake.

so i simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?.

Ucantnome

I keep reading that Jehovah's Witnesses are in effect monsters. I keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake. So I simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?

I didn't leave the witnesses because I thought 'Jehovah's Witnesses are in effect monsters'. It could be viewed that I left so that I would not upset the peace of the congregation. At the time of my leaving I had a lot of unanswered questions and although I spoke to the elders in the congregation the questions remained.

My posting on this site is not to try and portray Jehovah's Witnesses as monsters. I still know some Witnesses and talk to them and sometimes they come to my door. A few years ago I have some conversations on a regular basis with an elder. We had disagreement on various things but the discussion was interesting and I learnt some things that I hadn't realised before.

As my family and I were Witnesses for many years I think we were people who were trying to lead decent lives while we joined in the preaching work. I think that is true of most Witnesses that I met.

Having said that I still have disagreement with some of the teachings and so voice my opinions on the various topics whether on here or when Witnesses ask me questions.

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Do you believe what the Bible teaches? If "yes", why? If "no", why?

by Tenacious in

if you do believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

if you don't believe in the bible's message, do you believe society has gotten better, worse, or has remained the same?.

on a personal note, there are many things that i can't help but notice that coincide with what the apostle paul wrote to timothy in his second letter chapter 3 regarding tough times:.

Ucantnome

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jan/15/rate-of-environmental-degradation-puts-life-on-earth-at-risk-say-scientists

a quote from the article

“It’s clear the economic system is driving us towards an unsustainable future and people of my daughter’s generation will find it increasingly hard to survive,” he said. “History has shown that civilisations have risen, stuck to their core values and then collapsed because they didn’t change. That’s where we are today.” (Prof Will Steffen of the Australian National University and the Stockholm Resilience Centre.)

I think that maybe/could what the apostle Paul wrote have an application to all christians that number into the billions today and are in many lands some predominantly christian?

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

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friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

Heisenberg the anointed Jehovah Witnesses when I was a witness claimed to be the faithful and discreet slave class. In one publication they referred to themselves I believe as Gods mouthpiece. As the faithful slave their responsibilities were to give out the spiritual food. They also make up a government part of the 144000. Ambassadors for Christ. Do you think they have no responsibility for the effect their teachings have on the sheep?

Its impossible to please God without faith. Surely we should have had faith in what we were preaching as good news that came from this mouthpiece and our works demonstrate that faith I thought.

So I see my responsibility for my decisions in life from this perspective. Maybe my view is wrong.

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Looking for 4 years of my posts!

by clarity in

dear simon, did you ever explain where all our previous posts have gone?.

if you did ...i missed it.. my current info states that i have only posted 2 times & responded to only a few posters.. seems to me my count was about 3,000 the last time i looked......plse tell me how to access my old stuff or has it been destroyed now?.

clarity .

Ucantnome

i don't seem to be able to edit or delete them after half an hour and some of mine are a few years old.

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What do YOU desperately need, but you've been putting it off?

by TerryWalstrom in

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i don't know why, but i put off getting a haircut way longer than i should.. i might go as long as 5 or 6 months between haircuts.. i desperately need a haircut.. what do you desperately need, but you've been putting it off?.

(disclaimer: minimus is going to be jealous.

this sort of question is his tradmark :).

Ucantnome

I find getting my haircut as bad as going to the dentist and so I don't go that often.

i'm also really, really late with finishing a job i'm doing. (about a year) and I find it difficult to do anything

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Looking for 4 years of my posts!

by clarity in

dear simon, did you ever explain where all our previous posts have gone?.

if you did ...i missed it.. my current info states that i have only posted 2 times & responded to only a few posters.. seems to me my count was about 3,000 the last time i looked......plse tell me how to access my old stuff or has it been destroyed now?.

clarity .

Ucantnome

I wish mine had all disappeared

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

jw
friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

just a little addition to my last post.

Here http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/booklets/look.html

I found the booklet that i believe was the first thing my parents studied when they became Jehovah's Witnesses. I do not have a copy of it myself. However on page 27 toward the end it says this,

Your safety and the whole future of yourself and your family depend on now studying the Bible, associating with the New World society of Jehovah's witnesses, dedicating yourself to your Creator, Jehovah God, and witnessing for him. Do not let the pursuit of material things or the cares of life rob you of this wonderful opportunity of life.

My parents I think believed this and did witness believing their safety and mine was connected to being a Witness. It was the 'truth'

When they first became Witnesses they were taught the Great Tribulation had started in 1914, when this changed they believed that 6000 years of a 7000 year creative day ended in 1975 and the generation that saw the establishment of the Messianic kingdom was well along in years and would not pass away before the Great Tribulation, that hadn't started in 1914, started.This was all the truth. I believe the generation teaching was part of the good news, that's why it was in the Awake magazine front cover. As I showed in my post earlier, a few pages back, how what Paul said regarding the 'good news' was applied to what Jehovah's Witnesses have preached and faith. The 'good news' should be the truth and not need to be changed.

My parents don't give the truth any thought now. They don't give anything any thought now.

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

jw
friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Ucantnome

Why didn't you?

Because i had faith in the good news that we preached. At the time I was also living at home and had been raised as a witness. My parents would not have been in favour of my further education which would have shown a lack of faith in the nearness of the end as, those i have been raised to view as, Christ's brothers were informing us was the case. My salvation, i believed, depended on doing good to Christ's brothers and the primary way i understood was assisting them in the life saving work of preaching the good news.

I think it is naive to say that an organization was responsible for the way your life turned out.

I think in explaining my choice and the reasons why I made the decisions I made is not a case of not taking responsibiity for them. I would be much more careful now in paying attention to anything from Jehovah's Witnesses and making decisions based on the information (spiritual food) recieved.

the word coercion springs to mind when i think of how i felt when I was a young witness. although i felt that it was the best way to pioneer and serve Jehovah i also felt that my doing so was important for me to survive Armageddon and although I have faith in God I now recognise that we are all different and we don't need to feel guilty for not being a pioneer/ministerial servant/elder or wanting to be one.