the children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.. dylaan roof has not apologised for what he did.
he hates black people and probably regrets not killing even more.. what does it really mean to forgive?.
if the legal system asked the victims relatives what they want done next would they ask for dylaan to go free and unpunished?.
Cofty
yes I will try and read the comments later today.
The children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.
In the discussion I had with the theologian I explained that my reaction probably wouldn't have been like these children and I saw forgiveness tied very much to repentance. The theologian is a very bright man and i'm not so bright.
the children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.. dylaan roof has not apologised for what he did.
he hates black people and probably regrets not killing even more.. what does it really mean to forgive?.
if the legal system asked the victims relatives what they want done next would they ask for dylaan to go free and unpunished?.
Christians respond to events the way they are expected to react.
I didn't find this when a relative of mine died. There was a variety of responses to the death. I was closer to the person than most of the other relatives. My brother and I are both Christian and it affected my brother a lot more than myself. I didn't feel expected to react in a certain way.
I had a discussion with a theologian a while ago regarding forgiving and found my view was different than his. Maybe this was just that I was wrong or maybe it was because I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. I found it difficult to be forgiving of someone who doesn't want my forgiveness. I felt I should accommodate their wishes.
the children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.. dylaan roof has not apologised for what he did.
he hates black people and probably regrets not killing even more.. what does it really mean to forgive?.
if the legal system asked the victims relatives what they want done next would they ask for dylaan to go free and unpunished?.
How do you understand forgiveness?
i'm not sure.
i believe this is the first year that the uk wont have a summer dc at this historical old rugby stadium (which is now one of the finest arenas in the uk) the costs to rent it must be astronomical these days, and it appears they are having multiple dates at the excel arena in london plus milton keynes is being used , many memories for me from a baby onwards making the yearly trip there, the dusty old stadium, the long walks to the car parks, working on the field security, getting burnt to a crisp or being poured on, binoculars !
food tickets, meeting at the lion gates checking the talent, and on the final day drinking the local pub dry the barny arms, end of an era!
I went there quite a few times. First times were early sixties, got lost once when I was a small child on the way to the coach. Last time I went in the mid eighties I only stayed for one talk was bored and we left.
As a child I remember it as always being cold.
if you were somehow magically put in-charge of the governing body tomorrow, by jesus, with the rules being, you could not teach anything that would be considered outright apostasy and you could not teach anything that would be considered to cause doubt about god's existence... (so as not to arouse suspicion).
what "new light" or "clarified understandings" would you introduce first?.
and which later on?.
inspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.
Fusion Theism
you say this
'and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years,'
I just happened to watch the video the other day and what you state is the impression I had after listening to it. Watching it a second time I could only find at about 8:09 minutes into the video mention that he doesn't know if any of the people mentioned were of the anointed.
Am I wrong did I miss something? (I didn't feel like listening to it a third time)
i want as many minds put into this as possible.. there is a new argument among the extreme jw apologists, saying that even the disciples promoted mistakes.
they base themselves on john 21:23. keep in mind, i am not a believer but i want the answer from a believer's standpoint, please.. .
nwt:.
Watchtower June 1 1968 page 331As I believe this was part of the good news, gospel that we preached it needed to be true. I don't think that what was thought about John was part of the good news that was preached or something that was believed your life depended on preaching. That's my view.
On the Joyful March to Mankind’s Millennium
Arguing against a literal future millennial fule by Christ, some have claimed that such a teaching would chill the missionary ardour of Christians to make disciples of all nations. (Matt. 28:19,20) But not so! Today no people are more zealous in carrying out this missionary commission than are the Christian witnesses of Jehovah, who believe that the 1,000-year reign of Christ is literal and future. In comparatively few years these have grown to more than a million. Today they are carrying out this commission in 197 lands and islands of the sea and that in 169 languages. Last year they devoted 184 million hours to this work!
And no wonder. What good news they have to tell the people! They proclaim the good news that the millennial rule of Christ will begin with this generation and that it will mean ever so many blessings for the people :..
a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
clarified understandings / new light of the past 7 years or so:.
* the faithful and discreet slave is only the governing body and only since 1919.. * the faithful slave was appointed in 1919 by jesus but it will not receive its greater authority until the judgment of the sheep and goats.. * charles taze russell was not part of the faithful and discreet slave.. * there was no slave for 1900 years before 1919.. * there may not have been any anointed during those 1900 years, but it's possible there were a few.. * 1935 was not the cut-off date for the selection of the anointed-- this selection is still ongoing.
* 1935 has no special biblical significance.. * 1918 has no special biblical significance.. * gog of magog is not satan, but is a coalition of nations, who may be ruled by the mysterious king of the north.. * there is no evil slave class.
so we all know that "crazy" brother or sister.
every kingdom hall has one.
they give the best comments (from a hilarious perspective), have experiences with the "demons", but most importantly, they are on about 10 deifferent kinds of medications.
i had a reason to look up Doctor Faustus on Wikipedia and it had this to say i found it interesting.
The powerful effect of the early productions is indicated by the legends that quickly accrued around them. In Histriomastix, his 1632 polemic against the drama, William Prynne records the tale that actual devils once appeared on the stage during a performance of Faustus, "to the great amazement of both the actors and spectators". Some people were allegedly driven mad, "distracted with that fearful sight". John Aubrey recorded a related legend, that Edward Alleyn, lead actor of The Admiral's Men, devoted his later years to charitable endeavours, like the founding of Dulwich College, in direct response to this incident.[3]
