Posts by Ucantnome

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Dear Jehovah's witnesses, a question....

by punkofnice in

dear jehovah's witnesses and on-the-fencers.. isn't it even a little bit obvious that the watchtower organisation doesn't have jehovah's blessing?.

if it did, why are your leaders, the governing body, asking you for your money and assets?

surely, jehovah would provide for the organisation without having to use your hard earned money and assets?.

Ucantnome

If I was still a JW I would just think it shows how near to the end we are.

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We are living in the 21st Century , When , Are We Going to Bury Religious Superstition ? Once and for all ?

by smiddy in

the christian bible / cannon is different , depending on what religion you profess ,around the world.. russian orthodox ,greek orthodox ,christian gnostics ,roman catholics , polish national catholics ,c.of e , etc,etc,.

the very many christian bible translations that exist today differ according to different interpretations of the translators.. the jewish translators of the hebrew scriptures add a whole new concept to the traditional interpretation by christian translators of the old testament... throw in the mix all of the fundamentalist religions that have sprung up these past couple of centuries including the j.w.`s , s.d.a.`s , mormons , t.v.

evangelists , etc, etc,.

Ucantnome

And of course if such a being GOD even existed why so silent for so long,

I think there is a theory called block time. where the past, present and future all exist at once. So maybe God if he has spoken in the past it still exists today. It's all relative to where you stand.

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Share Your Personal Experiences Please!

by LaurenM in

so since leaving the borg i've made quite a few stupid mistakes, hurting myself a lot..but i finally feel like i've learned and i think, in time, i'll find my happiness again...even more happiness that i could've ever had being a jw.. but my question to you guys is, what was your experience like leaving the borg?

did you struggle at all?

how long have you been out?

Ucantnome

But my question to you guys is, what was your experience like leaving the Borg? Did you struggle at all? How long have you been out? What is your life like now? Is it happy?

I find my life very similar to when I was a Witness but without the meetings and field service.

When I left I wouldn't really describe it as a struggle. It was over twenty years ago. There were times when it was stressful. I think that there was an inevitability to leaving, although at first I thought I would be able to continue going along as I had previously done. Probably mostly due to having to change some things in our lives, particularly work with the new view that had emerged for me with my study of the Watchtower. These changes altered meeting attendance. Which I think altered the brothers view of us. Which made meeting attendance less likely.

I sought the advice of a careers counsellor and had a few options. We made choices based on what information was available. Other things unknown at the time have had an effect on those decisions, not to our benefit.

Coming on this site I have found has helped me to sort some things out in my mind and to understand more clearly the reasons why I left. This has been good for me.

Happiness? Some things I think are difficult to change. I have found that the Great Tribulation not starting in the time that we were taught by those who claimed to be the faithful and discreet slave class has made my life more difficult. I cannot regain those years of my youth and do the things I should have done and some times when an opportunity has passed you don't get another one therefore I wouldn't say I am happier or less happy since leaving.

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What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

by nicolaou in

here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

already people are making cries of "nanny state!

Ucantnome

I enjoy a drink, mostly spirits. I try and apply the advice given. I had a relative die as an alcoholic. I don't think he was a drain on the NHS. He paid his taxes and I took took him to the hospital when he couldn't walk anymore for his final visit.

still had his sense of humour and we had a laugh

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General health after learning TTATT

by Darkknight757 in

4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.

during this time my health was going down hill.

i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.

Ucantnome

So has anyone else experienced better health after mentally/physically leaving the Org?

Yes. For many years I had a lot of indigestion that would wake me up at night and had a large bottle of tablets at the side of my bed. This disappeared and I never have indigestion. I don't have any tablets in the house.

No. A few years after leaving I had what the doctor said were panic attacks. Most were at night. Very cold, unpleasant thoughts and shortness of breath last an hour or so. I think it was possibly related to leaving. Occasionally I will wake and feel one coming but have learnt to stop it.

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Slightly different approach - JW my tradition

by closed in

hello everybody :) i have been visiting this forum for some time.

i noticed that many can't really free from the past in the org despite many years outside of jw.

i was awaken with a bang.

Ucantnome

good for you. i couldn't. but i think it is better for some. in a way.

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General health after learning TTATT

by Darkknight757 in

4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.

during this time my health was going down hill.

i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.

Ucantnome

yes and no

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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

by nicolaou in

a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

i was surprised to say the least!.

i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

Ucantnome

cofty the best i can do to further answer you is this.

There were two brothers. One was an alcoholic the other wasn't. The one who wasn't spoke several times to the one who was but to no avail. The one who was alcoholic said he wanted to drink he enjoyed it and if it shortened his life that's ok with him. When he died at a young age. The other brother felt it was his choice and he was awear of the consequences there wasn't anything else he could have done In a similar way i think i would consider the kool aid drinker. Whilst obeying the law.

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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

by nicolaou in

a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

i was surprised to say the least!.

i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

Ucantnome

ucant its interesting that three times now you have avoided wrestling with the moral question and taken refuge in law.
Religious people tend to do that a lot.

I think you cannot know me, how I think is not the same as you

I'm saying that I cannot imagine the situation without the law as I cannot just get rid of something I know.

I don't feel I'm taking refuge in anything although I feel you mention religion and cast it in a negative light I haven't brought it up, 'tend to do that' is just your opinion. Why do you feel the need to do that cofty?

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If YOU had to make the decision, would you respect a JW relatives wish to refuse a blood transfusion?

by nicolaou in

a few years after i quit the meetings my mum needed her medical directive signed and witnessed and she asked if i'd do it.

i was surprised to say the least!.

i think she was just angling to include me and maybe find some lever to get me involved again.

Ucantnome

Difficult to say

I think I would be obliged by law to react to the suicide and as I cannot imagine the situation without that I can't give a clear answer.