Ucantnome

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  How much money people usually donate to WT ?

  by Bardamu in

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  i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.

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  i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..

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  i would get some tickets for food at the assembly and if I hadn't used them ( I usually ate at a restaurant) i would contribute the remaining ticket. that was it.

  I didn't go every year to the assembly.
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  Spiritual paradise or proverbial straitjacket?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  noas a current or past jehovah's witness, do you / or did you feel part of a spiritual paradise with full liberty in christ as the watchtower society/organisation describes?.

  or do you / did you feel you were wearing a proverbial straitjacket in the sense you feel / felt restricted and controlled by the watchtower society / organisation?.

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  I would say that as I had understood how the spiritual paradise was defined I felt that I was in the spiritual paradise when I was a JW.

  I understand that the word paradise originates from a word meaning walled enclosure and as such I believe I would be somewhat restricted, I felt restricted.

  Being restricted I felt was for my best interest when I was a JW.
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  Making life and death/life altering decisions based on commands from someone you're not sure exists

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  straight from the off, i will say that i'm 100% atheist.

  i have no faith.

  however, it occurred to me while thinking back over my involvement with the jw religion and especially when i take into account personal and family situations where people have made life altering choices due to being jw's, just how crazy it really is.

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  But when it comes to the bigger things; life/death, blood, shunning, etc. Well, do they ever factor in the thought - 'what if I'm wrong'?

  
  

  In the first century according to what I understood from the bible was that the first century christians received holy spirit which I would have thought would have been evidence and christianity grew through the years.

  when my parents accepted the good news from the witnesses I think they felt they saw evidence of the holy spirit active on the anointed christians of JW in doing the preaching work in this time of the end and having an understanding of the bible.

  i think that their faith came from this.

  I remember the brother who studied with them saying that even if it was wrong it was still the best way of life and I think my parents enjoyed the 'truth' commenting in the early 1960's that after the meeting they felt they were walking on air.

  
  I think there was a degree of 'what if I'm wrong' however I think this was outweighed by the what they saw as evidence of the holy spirit guiding the anointed. They never claimed to have an anointing themselves.
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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  in the 1970's we lived at a house that had a mulberry tree in the grounds. as a young person I remember helping my mother with some gardening nearby. she was expressing her faith and how happy she was that she had the Truth she would never suffer old age like her parents and die.

  i visited her today in hospital where she has lain for 11 days moaning and groaning and being fed through a tube. she hasn't acknowledged my presence for the last week.

  the truth. lol
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  Was Ray Franz Playing The Long Game?

  by rory-ks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just making my way through crisis of conscience for the second time and once again i am struck by the presentation of such detailed records.

  letters are shown in full - copies of letters from the branch, and to the branch.

  reports are quoted vebatim.

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  i remember when i read his books feeling this almost euphoria and sadness at the same time. what took him so long he was on the governing body.
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  What did you regrettably not do because you were a Jehovah's Witness ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovah's witnesses cannot do a lot of things.

  i remember pioneers having to quit their jobs because they could not work in a convenience store and sell cigarettes.

  i know of a young man who was offered a scholarship to any college or university if he wanted to go to because of his football abilities.

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  I sometimes feel that I have regrets about things i could have done with regard to girlfriends but who knows how that would have turned out. One brother who was going to art school encouraged me to go but I thought it would mean missing meetings and the end was so close. (1970's) Who knows how my life would have turned out if I did, so I don't know that I regret not going.

  One thing I do regret is not taking out a personal pension when I was advised to by my personal banker who spent time trying to convince me. The only reason that I didn't was that I had faith the Great Tribulation /Armageddon would come within the time of the generation of 1914 (1980's) I discussed this with my parents. It means I will have to do work into into my 70's.
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  If you actually BELIEVE the Bible- you will never go to church.

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't- enjoy the entertainment!.

  maybe they'll have a rock band!.

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  If you actually BELIEVE the Bible- you will never go to church.

  i don't think that is true. maybe some some go to church to partake of the Eucharist.
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  King of the South and that stuff

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i see that the uk prime monster t may is going to see the pressy of the usa whos name means 'fart' here in brit land.

  i have my own views on those people, in fact authority in general.

  but i ramble as we old people tend to do.. i wonder how long before jobos are saying; 'ooooh, look.

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  I think the Syrian king Seleucus was the original king of the north
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  If the Org. confessed they were not God's org. Would you still be there and was that the main reason you stayed

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know you know who i am by now...the one that forgets to use paragraphs...anyway, all over all the jw sites (not jw.org).

  it's been asked if you knew this or that why did you stay...it's been discussed how no matter what you hit the friends with, failed dated, new lights, pedophiles, etc, yet they stay and you can't reason with them....so what i've come up with is that most stay because they feel it's god's org.

  and they were chosen in place of the jews.

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  I recently said to someone that I feel it was inevitable that although I was raised a JW that I would ultimately leave.

  Although I felt I had and have a love for God I never liked the organisation, going to the meetings, the assemblies, the idea of being a servant or elder, answering at meetings, the idea of bethel service or pioneering, etc. I felt I didn't understand a lot of the deeper things, I didn't enjoy bible reading reading or studying, I didn't like some bible characters, I felt I liked Peter most didn't like Paul. (I enjoy reading Paul's writings now)

  My actions I think showed it was inevitable. I did pioneer but I never would have done it without the encouragement of my relatives. I wasn't good at it, some still laugh about it. When I was old enough I didn't attend the summer assemblies, I slipped into the meetings as they started and slipped out as they ended. As an adult I never even carried the roving microphone although asked (sometimes they are willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel if it's a necessity). I was seldom on the school and didn't own a suit.

  However I stayed as believed it was God's organisation and so if they said they weren't I would have left sooner.
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  I am a Living Time Machine

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

  everywhere you found telephone booths!

  a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

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  time is weird