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So much for a religion that bases EVERYTHING on God's Word, unlike every other religion.
Silent_Scream
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Last weekends assembly low-lights in Newburgh, ny
by Silent_Scream in1) on saturday's last talk by the do, he made a cool illustration.
he said "imagine my wife found a picture of another woman in my wallet.
and when she approaches my about it, i say 'oh, thats only because she reminds me of you.
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For Mankkeli and other apologists
by JeffT ini thought i'd throw this out here again after reading the post quoting the wt article about returning to god.
the problem with all such articles is, the governing body/watchtower/jw's are not god.
leaving a human organization is not leaving god, nor is going back to it returning to god.
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Silent_Scream
mankkeli is a joke. He loves the GB and "food at the proper time" so much he scopes out apostate websites in which to feed us the meals he's eating. If that's what's available, starve me.
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For Mankkeli and other apologists
by JeffT ini thought i'd throw this out here again after reading the post quoting the wt article about returning to god.
the problem with all such articles is, the governing body/watchtower/jw's are not god.
leaving a human organization is not leaving god, nor is going back to it returning to god.
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Silent_Scream
I don't think ANY of us here are inclined to believe that the Watchtower holds any grain of truth just because it SAYS it does. Just like none of us believe the Governing Body itself is god's "channel here on earth". If a child is a habitual liar, and then one day decides to tell the truth, how many people believe him? Boy who cried "Wolf", anyone?
Reminds me of a joke. There's 2 men. One ALWAYS lies, and one ALWAYS tell the truth. They both are standing before separate roads claiming theirs leads to everlasting peace and prosperity. You have Only 1 chance to ask a question to find out which one is the fake and which is genuine. What could you ask?
Asking "Which one is the real road?" would seem simple and obvious, but it would get you nowhere. Thats like asking religious leaders which religion is the true one. You can bet they would all choose theirs (either inclusively amongst others or exclusively).
A more fitting question would be "From which road have you come from?" That would FORCE the liar and honest one to point to the genuine road. Problem is, religious leaders are like the lying man and they believe their road is the genuine one. The word "organization" is not in the Bible neither supported by principle. But the leaders of such ones will always say "Come this way." Trickery, man.
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Last weekends assembly low-lights in Newburgh, ny
by Silent_Scream in1) on saturday's last talk by the do, he made a cool illustration.
he said "imagine my wife found a picture of another woman in my wallet.
and when she approaches my about it, i say 'oh, thats only because she reminds me of you.
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Silent_Scream
Although i understand what is being said about the picture in the wallet illustration, without argument over semantics, it made sense to me. Every parable or illustration has small points which may be varied and seem unsuitable, for the point made, but idolatry is a practice that does not hold sustainable reasoning as to the practicality of it.
Also, there was a part entitled "Make God's Name Known as Full-Time Servants". Another guilt-trip ridden part. Pretty much, if you're not a pioneer, you suck. I love when they discuss the brother who is basically in a coma but still find time to pioneer. Or the sister with 14 kids at age 3 but can pioneer also. And the biggest slap in the face on parts like these is they normally interview the biggest frontin' pimps and hoes in the circuit. It's like they seek out the ones who everyone is asking why are they not df'd yet.
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My experience has been completely different!
by Silent_Scream ini read a lot on threads where people are feeling like a lot of you feel like many are waking up to this garbage and starting to think.
let me give three examples:.
1) knowing the bible speaks of not saying a greeting to the anti-christ, wts applies that to all df'd people.
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tec and Lisa - excellent points.
im thinking of simply mailing a letter of my stance to those whom are the closest to me and walking away. I feel like a hypocrite.
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2 Day Circuit Assembly
by truthlover incan anyone out there tell me if the final talk by the do mentioned "marrying outside of the lord"?.
i ask this as the do mentioned that if jehovah were to ask a woman, why did you marry outside, and she had no answer, he would tell her she was disobedient.
then went on to give the spiel on singleness - of course, for a woman, not for a man, who has his choice of women to pick from.....those single should pioneer... .
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Silent_Scream
We had that point made in talk at our assembly last weekend.
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My experience has been completely different!
by Silent_Scream ini read a lot on threads where people are feeling like a lot of you feel like many are waking up to this garbage and starting to think.
let me give three examples:.
1) knowing the bible speaks of not saying a greeting to the anti-christ, wts applies that to all df'd people.
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Wow. Thanks for sharing! I will have to pick up that book.
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My experience has been completely different!
by Silent_Scream ini read a lot on threads where people are feeling like a lot of you feel like many are waking up to this garbage and starting to think.
let me give three examples:.
1) knowing the bible speaks of not saying a greeting to the anti-christ, wts applies that to all df'd people.
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Silent_Scream
I read a lot on threads where people are feeling like a lot of you feel like many are waking up to this garbage and starting to think. But thus far, I am ALL ALONE. Let me give three examples:
1) Knowing the Bible speaks of not saying a greeting to the anti-Christ, WTS applies that to all df'd people. So i said hello to a df'd person I see regularly when passing by (after months of ignoring him). I know he was caught off guard. The more we passed each other, he started taking initiative to greet. Never anything more. Then I get talked to by two elders in his hall and they reminded me of the df'ing guidlines. How'd they know? They said he told them and I was making it hard to come back. SMH!
2) There's some young ones in my hall they want to go to college, prom, and do normal stuff. But they also cuss and go out with 'wordly' kids from High school. They are young, and I'm not about trying to snatch up the minds of minors. But I try to help them reason, because they can never come back to this point. I'll say show me in the Bible where Jehovah says you can't do such. I've even told them about when I was in school and some did go to college and prom, etc and it turned out great! (Because I served in Bethel, them and their parents do like to get my opinion and I use it to point to Bible, not GB). Thinking they would at least figure it out and make an informed obvious choice without looking to men for approval on such personal decisions, they told me I was talking against the slave and I need to stop. REALLY??!!
3) I am 4th generation JW. So all my cousins and aunts and uncles and grandparents grew up in JW land. But most never 'did anything'. One of my cousins started re-attending meetings, but realized its not the truth and made it clear he wasn't going back. So the family shunned him! He's not baptized and the great majority of the family isn't either, but they feel its the truth. This one developed in the past month. Unreal!
I need to read Combatting Mind Control. This is ridiculous, I dont plan on being in more than a month from now, but talk about Silent Screams!
Anyone else have everyone else around them getting duped? Whether currently in or out?
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Last weekends assembly low-lights in Newburgh, ny
by Silent_Scream in1) on saturday's last talk by the do, he made a cool illustration.
he said "imagine my wife found a picture of another woman in my wallet.
and when she approaches my about it, i say 'oh, thats only because she reminds me of you.
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Silent_Scream
Exactly MrMonroe, because afterwards people were discussing it and were asking "How could the faithful slave delay Armageddon? That doesn't even make sense." So the straw man worked.
It makes me angry at how much time and effort I used defending their reasonings all these years thinking I was defending Jehovah! Even things that made no sense to me. Like Rev 18:4 being used to say we can't visit churches, but we need to invite people to ours. I don't know how many people I had to reason with to see JW stance on stuff like that, and tried to make sense of it.
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Last weekends assembly low-lights in Newburgh, ny
by Silent_Scream in1) on saturday's last talk by the do, he made a cool illustration.
he said "imagine my wife found a picture of another woman in my wallet.
and when she approaches my about it, i say 'oh, thats only because she reminds me of you.
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Silent_Scream
It was ridiculous. I find it funny when everyone goes out to eat afterward, they try to be good Christians and discuss the program points, but it lasts maybe 3 minutes and then get awkward because we all knows its fake and not really upbuilding but are told by the slave it is, but it fails, but then we discuss sports and Dancing with the stars to no end. LOL.