Thank you so much for this document. I'm also preparing for a conversation with an old friend who is disfellowshipped, but is having doubts about returning.
Confusedandangry
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Watchtower's 49 Date Failures Mostly Ditched Without Fanfare
by FatFreek 2005 inwatchtower's apparent obsession with calendar dates is legendary.
what follow's are snippets from the main article.
link will follow.. .
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Has Anyone Ever Outed You For Being “Apostate”?
by minimus ineither here on this site or by a congregation member?
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Confusedandangry
Yes my own husband. To my parents.
It didn't work though. It was His word against mine.
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Naked JW;s - the saga continues
by Moster innaked and not alone.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/people-involved-in-naked-kidnapping-have-disorder-court/ar-bbreoq7?ocid=calheader.
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Applied kinesiology, otherwise known as muscle testing, is a pseudo-scientific alternative medicinal practice where practitioners diagnose and treat their clients based on testing muscles for strength and weaknes
I dont know why the font is so big. Anyway, I know several practitioners of this kind that are uber jws, special pioneers, regular pioneers, etc. They claim they can see what is wrong with you by asking your body "electrically". One of them says she can see what is wrong with people just walking down the street, almost like x-ray vision. They have many clients who swear they are cured or healed from their illnesses. They even 'heal' people who are affected by demons/evil spirits by making them put their hands on trees/branches and repeating a small chant, or sitting on grass. They even did this to ex-missionaries who were serving on a small island where 90% of the population practiced witchcraft! Has anyone else heard of uber Jws doing this? I saw it myself firsthand and found it strange but fascinating that everyone around believed it worked!
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Child sexual abuse suspect arrested in T.O.
by Tahoe inhttps://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/12/13/child-sexual-abuse-suspect-arrested-t-o/2305199002/ .
a 69-year-old thousand oaks man facing multiple sexual abuse charges by the ventura county district attorney’s office was arrested last week, authorities said.. steven skyler abbott was arrested dec. 6 after months of investigation into the reported sexual abuse of two thousand oaks girls, according to the ventura county sheriff’s office.
in november, the ventura county district attorney’s office filed multiple felony sexual abuse charges against abbott, including two counts of continuous sexual abuse, one count of lewd acts upon a child and one count of forcible lewd acts upon a child.. he is also facing multiple felony enhancements and special allegations related to his charges.. the investigation began in september, when the sheriff’s agency received a report of suspected child crimes.. a 16-year-old victim alleged that she was sexually abused by abbott when she was between the ages of 5 and 11, sheriff’s officials said.. sexual assault unit detectives subsequently identified a second, 24-year-old victim who reported that abbott had abused her when she was between the ages of 3 and 7, authorities said.. the sheriff’s agency said the victims and their families had come into contact with abbott through the kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses in newbury park.. investigators submitted their findings to prosecutors, who filed felony sexual abuse charges against abbot on nov. 16, officials said.. on nov. 28, an arrest warrant was issued for abbott.. the suspect was eventually arrested at his home on dec. 6 and booked into ventura county jail.
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Confusedandangry
I hope more victims continue to come forward. I wonder if he was an elder?
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Another book, that I just CANNOT put down!!!
by Beth Sarim inyesterday i just received from amazon.com is a book entitled ''awakening jehovah's witness'' by diane wilson.. just an amazing testimony.
her heart-wrenching testimony of what she went through in giving child-birth the second time, in regards' to jw standards(man-made laws) only to have the borg to a total 180 spin the (man-made) standards about a decade after the fact.
just deplorable, appalling for a lack of better words.. a great book, it's a moving book.
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Confusedandangry
Thank you for the recommendation. Sounds very interesting to me.
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Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?
by minimus ini sneakily read his books at work.
it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.
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Confusedandangry
Yes, he helped confirm my doubts. Does anyone one here know someone who has read COC and remained a faithful witness?
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UK Charity Data For WBTS
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhttps://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/apr/24/top-1000-charities-donations-britain#data.
thi slink takes you there.
the list is long.go figure.. .
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Confusedandangry
@Jan, I wrote to them (IBSA) once asking the same questions. All I got back was that they are not connected in any way, and the Jehovah's witnesses in the UK continue to use the IBSA name for legal purposes only.
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Did anyone put off having children because of wt bs?
by I Faded Twice injust curious if anyone put off having kids because the end was so close.
or because of you're "ministry" or lack of suitable mates..
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Confusedandangry
Yes. I was 37 when I woke up. I try not to be bitter about it, but its effin HARD. I
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The important question : loyalty and devotion to whom, the leaders of the WTS/JWorg. or Jesus Christ ?
by Finkelstein insince 1919 the men who ran the wts.
publishing house proclaimed that god jehovah has chosen the ibsa later on the jehovah's witnesses, in that they were solemnly chosen exclusively for their close adherence and accurate interpretation of the bible.. .
the truthful reality is quite the contrary, the doctrines these men created were many times false and unscriptural , causing great personal problems including suicides and deaths to those who made themselves devoted to these men.. during the baptism of becoming a jws you would have to make a sworn vow of devotion to these men, who self describe themselves as the fdsl.. in reading the bible and the words of jesus christ it's obvious the leaders of this organization enacted themselves in apostasy opposed to the directions handed out by jesus in preaching his gospel.. they became discreetly unloyal to god as it were and lured in many to do the same in acts of coercion utilized by their publishing capabilities and the distribution of their literature to the public... .
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Confusedandangry
Fink, when I first started doing real research into JW history I found this on Wikipedia:
"International Bible Students Association[edit]
The International Bible Students Association (IBSA) is a corporate not-for-profit organization used by Jehovah's Witnesses in the United Kingdom for the production and distribution of religious literature. Its stated purpose is "to promote the Christian religion by supporting congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses and others in connection with their spiritual and material welfare in Britain and abroad within the charitable purposes of the Association."[22]
The IBSA was founded in 1914 as a corporation of the Bible Students by Charles Taze Russell in London, England, and was the first legal corporation representing Russell's ministry in Europe. The Watch Tower Society stated in 1917 that the IBSA, along with its Pennsylvania and New York based corporations "were organized for identical purposes and they harmoniously work together."[23] Other similarly named corporations operate in various countries to promote the interests of Jehovah's Witnesses."
So if Jesus supposedly chose Jehovah's Witnesses as his people in 1919, wouldn't the IBSA be his chosen people instead? Since JWs were not technically "Jehovah's Witnesses" until 1931? Am I missing something here?
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JW marketing image
by neat blue dog inpicture from a recent watchtower:.
what diversity.
what corporate synergy.
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Confusedandangry
@sir 82 Because that's probably the way they will need to dress in 'Paradise'. That is until they become perfect and will no longer need clothes!