Posts by erbie

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What is the best book about JWs (written by non JWs, of course), in your opinion?

by Chemical Emotions in

i've never read any, so i'd like to know everyone's opinion..

erbie

Ron Rhodes did a very interesting and informative book entitled 'Reasoning from The Scriptures with the Jehovahs Witnesses'. If indeed it is possible to reason with them.

I do not have it now but I found it very helpful at the time.

Franz's books are the obvious starting point I suppose.

'Gentile Times Reconsidered' is interesting but I no longer feel that it is relevant because Jesus didn't show up in 1914 so to me the issue of when the Jewish temple was destroyed is of historical interest but little more.

Happy reading!

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Did you have any Elders CO's/DO's that were "Hung up" on certain things????

by karter in

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we had an elder that was hung up on mens haircuts he had a real thing about how short mens hair should be and even told one bro off for parting his hair down the middle.. even told one bro to shave off his sideburns.. a c.o who was paronoid about sound always telling the bro in charge off.. .

a d.o who orded the attendants to remove crying babys from assemblys on more than a few occations...hans hubler for those that know him..

erbie

We had an elder who was obsessed with the length of sisters skirts and their low-cut tops. It used to make me chuckle the way the sisters got round it by wearing long skirts with splits that were practically as long as the skirt itself.

Most of us came to the correct conclusion that this brother was sexually frustrated and didn't like to be reminded of it.

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Australia Newspaper alerts: JWs likens "defectors to 'contagious deadly disease'

by Gayle in

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/jehovas-witnesses-defectors-cop-a-blast/story-fn7x8me2-1226155212128.

erbie

When the revolution comes, I want them to be the first to go.

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I just can't do this anymore

by Awen in

dear friends:.

for years now after my exit from the wtbts i have searched for god.

as i have previously mentioned in other threads i looked into many other religions, including druidry, zen and tibetan buddhism (not really a religion), asatru, native american shamanism, kemetic orthodoxy, gnosticism and pandeism.

erbie

Personally, I think that all spiritual experiences are a delusion of the mind. I do not mean this as an insult. I can relate to your examination of Christianity and you are quite correct in that it makes no sense at all. How could it ever make sense?

All that hatred and revenge in the bible goes against every kind of sense. If it's all true, then I'll be happy to be the first to go.

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Plymouth Brethren, ever heard of them?

by exwhyzee in

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this religion was started in ireland around the same time as the jw's were in the mid to late 1800's.

and is still alive today in europe and america.

my grandfather and his family were of this religion.

erbie

On the Ministry I once called on a very nice lady who had left the Plymouth Brethren to join the Baptist Church. She told me back then that I would make a good Christian as I was far too normal and open minded to be a JW. I took it as a compliment and I have to say, after a long conversation with her about cults and her struggle to escape from them, I never really viewed the Watchtower in the same way ever again.

Lady, if you're out there, I owe you a lot cos you got me thinking and sowed a seed in me that would come to provide a lucky escape.

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Do you think Dr. Conrad Murray is guilty of killing Michael Jackson?

by Iamallcool in

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my answer is yes.

what about you?.

erbie

He was VERY talented but I never understood why he was always grabbing his crotch and squeeling!

A sad loss which leaves people looking for someone to blame but maybe nobody is to blame.

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Things that made you cringe at "the meetings"

by i_drank_the_wine in

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i always cringed so hard when a "brother" or "sister" would make some overly heartfelt comment about jehovah-something, usually related to a personal experience of theirs, and get all teared up and/or start crying.. once this fringe dude that's been df'd twice now was giving a talk and kept having these long awkward pauses where he looked like he was real stressed out, then he would start up again, stutter, slip up, and repeat the process until he looked down and went "i, i just can't do this" and walked off the stage and left the hall.. it also made my spchincter pucker when a young person would give some super devotional comment on how much they love big j and whatnot, which would make the congregation all smile in their hearts and wag their heads in approval..

erbie

All the Ministry School nonsense about being a good speaker and so on as if it justifies and gives credibility to the lies and deceptive nature of the message.

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Things that made you cringe at "the meetings"

by i_drank_the_wine in

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i always cringed so hard when a "brother" or "sister" would make some overly heartfelt comment about jehovah-something, usually related to a personal experience of theirs, and get all teared up and/or start crying.. once this fringe dude that's been df'd twice now was giving a talk and kept having these long awkward pauses where he looked like he was real stressed out, then he would start up again, stutter, slip up, and repeat the process until he looked down and went "i, i just can't do this" and walked off the stage and left the hall.. it also made my spchincter pucker when a young person would give some super devotional comment on how much they love big j and whatnot, which would make the congregation all smile in their hearts and wag their heads in approval..

erbie

'We're Jehovah's Witnesses

We speak out in fearlessness

Ours is the God of true prophecy

What he foretells comes to be'

That song made my ears bleed every time. True prophecy indeed. Ha!

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Do you sense that the Watchtower will implode?

by AK - Jeff in

since leaving the organization 8 years ago, there have been more significant changes in the actual, physical activities of the organization than occurred in all the 40 plus years i was 'in'.

bethel closings.

bethel layoffs.

erbie

Well, let's hope not or we will have nothing to talk about and nothing to hate. Well, except Tony Blair of course and a few other particularly nasty individuals.

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The Watchtower slams the Catholics, why not Islam?

by punkofnice in

given that the wbt$ is always ready to insult the catholics and other religions why don't they slam islam in the same way?.

is it because it's not considered 'christian' or do they know that muslims won't take their insults?.

or do they and i just missed it?.

erbie

I have often thought about this and I came to the conclusion that it is because they see themselves as in direct competition with the Catholic Church and view them as enemies but see muslims as potential converts so try to stay on the right side of them. They are also extremely insecure about the Catholic faith because they know it is almost 2,000 years older than the Watchtower cult. Much older than they like to admit. That's my theory anyway.

This is the way they work and that won't change anytime soon.