because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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Take a step back and try to save your marriage. She doesn't need to see things the way you do right now so just let it cool off for a while.
Just remember that she is not your enemy!
If you love her then that is the most important thing here and you could be taking steps that you will regret for a very long time.
Try to see that she feels like her world has been ripped apart. I bet its really difficult for her so show her love and understanding.
Love and peace to you both.
the may 15, 2013 washtowel has a cute little piece of artwork about what an impact they make out in serve-us.
i thought some captions might help make it clearer!.
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Yeah, I think it is they who are taking out the trash!
one of the hard core doctrines of the wt society, and many other religions, is that women are to be in "subjection" to men.. in the bible, in genisis , it says the domination of women by men came after adam and eve disobeyed god.
eve was cursed by pain in childbirth and that from then on as a curse: "he shall rule over you " from then on the male was to dominate the female.. but that was not in the original plan.
this was a reversal of the plan and a curse.
Are men equal to women?
I believe that the glass can be both half empty and half full
the may 15, 2013 washtowel has a cute little piece of artwork about what an impact they make out in serve-us.
i thought some captions might help make it clearer!.
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Compare and contrast the Ministry brother with the garbage collector.
What an evil organization!
He may not shave but at least he's doing an honest days work instead of swooning along like a dandy flaneur.
Ahh...the possession of leisure is a wonderful opportunity...
...and that applies to religion as well as politics.. if someone simply believes such and such is true, it doesn't really matter whether you "prove" it or not.
people will believe what they want to believe..
You are quite correct.
I read both Franz books, Gentile Times Reconsidered and some other books which I can't remember the name of.
The trouble is, people believe what they want to believe irrespective of the facts and I quickly realized this. Many people have been blindly following the 'truth' for so long that, when faced with a challenge, instead of questioning their beliefs cognitive dissonance will cut in like the governor on an engine to compensate for the lack of 'proof'.
You just have to let them be as it is a case of the blind leading the blind.
To spend your time trying to prove them wrong actually in some way qualifies or dignifies the false message that they preach.
If I told you that I was from the future would you waste your time tracing my lineage and my history to prove that I was in fact born and raised over the last few decades???
Of course not. And in time I realized that arguing with an active Witness about their false take on the Bible was doing my own intellect an injustice.
Apathy is the best medicine for them for if you don't take them seriously they will find it increasingly more difficult to take their own message seriously.
Persecution only serves to reinforce their own preconcieved notion in line with what the WT has them believe.
That said, an acurate and well documented history of the WTS is of course neccessary for those wishing to gain an objective view of the movement so I do not critisize anyone for that but you do reach a point when you have to let people believe what they will.
im on my phone, so im really limited.
i came out to my family about my doubts and my sexuality.
shit hit the fan.
At least they have proved to you that it clearly is a cult. Otherwise, why would they abandon you?
I actually find it quite hard to understand why they would.
Time will heal all.
Love and peace.
okay so i like dramatic lashes.
and my grandma told me all the women are complaining about them being a distraction.
well all i have to say to them is "kiss my ass".
Why on earth should people find your eye lashes a distraction???
We had an elder who was constantly on about the sisters skirts.
Eventually we came to the realization that he was sexually frustrated.
The problem is in a person's mind, not with the length of your eye lashes...
okay so i like dramatic lashes.
and my grandma told me all the women are complaining about them being a distraction.
well all i have to say to them is "kiss my ass".
Why on earth should people find your eye lashes a distraction???
We had an elder who was constantly on about the sisters skirts.
Eventually we came to the realization that he was sexually frustrated.
The problem is in a person's mind, not with the length of your eye lashes...
we had our special assembly day this weekend.. what the district overseer stated in his talk totally stunned me, and made me feel sick to my stomach.
he said, "christ is directing us through the governing body, and we cannot get holy spirit except through them!".
i do not wish to reveal all my thoughts on his statement, but i pray to god that it acts as a wake-up call to at least some of the audience.. suffice to say that the gb is now the mediator to our mediator, and from now on, i will have to pray for holy spirit through the name of the gb!!.
Firstly, what he said is blasphemy.
Also, by bible standards it is a declaration of apostasy.
Him speaking just that one sentence should be enough to make any honest hearted persons seriously question the motive behind it.
Thanks for sharing it with us
i was moved from the post of another user on this topic.like the film "there will be blood" that deals with passive aggression in religion i do now think that there will be an inevitable uprise against the lunatics of the governing body .too many of us wake up in a rate that has never been seen before because of the internet .what do you think ?
what shape will this uprise take ?.
cuba libre.
There Will be Blood -
What a great film for those of us who can relate to the religious aspect of it.
All that Church of the Third Revelation crap really reminded me of what I was taught as a kid.
We loaned it to my wife's father who is an elder and he said he didn't much like the film.
I thought, no, I bet you bloody didn't because it is too close to home for you to feel comfortable with it.
There is a heck of a lot of truth contained in that film.
And what superb acting!!!
Sorry I've deviated from your theme but I don't really know enough about the internal workings of the WT$ to be of any help.
