Thanks for the pictures fugue. Brilliant!!!
He looks as mad as a snake doesn't he!
As for his condescension? Well, he's not lecturing at Oxford or Cambridge (or Harvard) is he. Nor will he ever be.
Ignorance begets ignorance.
we're discussing this over on jwr:.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.
a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.
Thanks for the pictures fugue. Brilliant!!!
He looks as mad as a snake doesn't he!
As for his condescension? Well, he's not lecturing at Oxford or Cambridge (or Harvard) is he. Nor will he ever be.
Ignorance begets ignorance.
jesus said in the gospels: when you see jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies then the appointed time of the gentiles has arrived,so it wasn't the first attack in 587 bce.
but jesus said the words,,,,"will be,points to the 2nd attack in about the year 70 ad.
,yes into the future people"!so the idiots that dreamt up 607 bce.
yes, I've been looking forward to the year 2014 for about 20 years as I have always believed it would prove them to be the liars that they are (not that we need proof, common sense will do nicely).
However, as mentioned earlier, I do not now think it will make any difference to them. They are brainwashed and the only hope they have will come from within their own selves. Nothing else will make a difference but we all live in hope.
I do indeed hope to see the WT$ 'melt down' in my lifetime and maybe 2014 will have a share in this.
i had tears in my eyes at work today.
there was an arbor day celebration and some teenagers had some speeches and they planted a tree...most people would not be as touched by the events today as i was but one of the women recieving an award said that she was proud of these children because they were doingsomething good for the communtiy...and i was proud of them too, but i was sad for jw's who would think these children are "bad" just because they are not witnesses...or the jw who would not let their children associate with these teenagers or even be part of a "wordly" club..that's what made me sad, all those years i missed looking at the little beautiful things in life in a positive light and not the negative debbie downer way jw's look at things..
That they demean anything that they have no control over is a very good point.
Thankyou.
a couple of questions on this, firstly, is there a pdf of this book available??
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secondly, is anyone here aware of an update, due to the changing of the doctrine, this book is starting to become sprinkled with 'old light'........
Well,maybe if teachings change any more then the Reasoning book would become present truth again.
Full circle. They'll do anything to save money!
this question is really for elders or ex-elders (or ministerial servants in the know).... did you find that some elders would tend to "white-wash" the true state of the congregation when they had their sit-down with the co every 6 months?.
did some elders feel pressure to hide certain things from a co for fear of being "removed" from the boe?.
(judging by the "fakeness" that some elders displayed during co visits, i have to wonder whether they were really worried about being removed for not seeking out inactives or encouraging more participation during the wt study, book study or fs...).
I found them to be dishonest about most things so I guess not.
no, not that prince, its just a username.
hey apostates, i've heard about these types of forums at meetings and such, never would've guessed it was called jehovahs-witness.net lol.
(excuse my shock, hope no one is offended).
You could had said you love pussy. We wouldn't be offended.
Too polite!
'The sleep of reason brings forth monsters'. Spanish artist Francisco Goya.
'I can't stand this wallpaper, one of us will have to go'. Oscar Wilde on his death bed. A sense of humour to the end.
'Religion is a tree in which all the foulest beasts of the earth have come to roost'. Not certain where that's from but a friend of mine is always saying it.
even before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.
i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.
every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.
I know it's late and I am indeed very tired but I think you will find that there is no JW logic to be defied.
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Nevertheless I do know what you mean and it's interesting reading.
let's call it what it is - disagreeing with the watchtower bible and tract society after baptism into the cult.
in no way is the literal definition of the word "apostasy" applicable to what the cult is using the word for.
it is a buzz word that scares the crap out of the rank and file and keeps them from communicating with those who have become enlightened about the cults lies.. we here on jwn have accepted the wt label, "apostates", with a sense of humor, such as calling our get togethers apostafests, etc.. but we are actually the "enlightened"..
They have hijacked the word apostasy in the same way that they have hijacked the name Jehovah and the bible in general.
Just because you hijack something it does not mean that you own it.
They have their own fantasy world I am sure.
Well, it's an unscriptural teaching anyway so why should any of it make sense?
In truth, I'm not sure I ever really bought this teaching 100 percent which is mad because everything else revolves around it.
Fool that I am!!!