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  what happened to these CO,s in the UK back in the 60's?

  by bigmac in

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  flowing from another thread--does anyone remember the following names from the 1960's in the uk---where are they now?--in or out?--alive or otherwise?.

  bill bull.

  bevan vigo.

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  erbie

  I remember David Elgar, Barry Burtles and Clive Upton (not certain of the spelling)

  They always seemed quite removed from reality.

  I'd love to know what became of them if anyone knows.

  This is a great topic, very interesting.
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  Nephilim found in the State of Chihuahua

  by bats in the belfry in

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  the broadcaster, july 16, 1925. .

  the broadcaster was a four-page, second-class publication, that hoped to reach hundreds of thousands of persons through the mails.

  later, this publication was discontinued, because so many failed to reach their destination.

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  The Very Latest Candace Conti vs. The Watchtower News

  by God_Delusion in

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  we all saw this coming - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/latest-candace-conti-news/.

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  erbie

  Just the existence of this thread and the conversation we are having is proof enough for me. Never mind all the doctrinal errors, whether they win or lose they are shown to be what they are - a money loving cult.

  I sincerely envy those of you who found it easy to turn your back on the cult and not look back. It has not been that way with me as I have been constantly weighing and evaluating things even until quite recently. My wife on the other hand left a few years after me but says she never looked back and I envy her also for that. Although I was the first to leave I do have a tentative, hesitant nature which makes it very difficult to form solid conclusions about things. I just knew that it was wrong and that I needed to get out for my own wellbeing. So now, at least my kids will never have to go through it!

  In short, I know it may seem like a small thing, but I have always questioned whether I did the 'right' thing by alienating myself from the congregation but after first taking an interest in this thread a few days ago it would seem that the penny has just dropped for me. That may make me appear foolish or even stupid in the eyes of many but I guess we all take things at our own speed. I do hope that is the case.

  Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I very much appreciate all of the hard work and research that goes in to finding this information which has helped all of us in one way or another. Even as a dub I never really got to see the inner workings of the Org in the way that many of you have. As a result, I was like a child with very little insight or understanding of the duplicity of the WTS.

  So thanks to all of you who have set up this site and continue to provide us with accurate info on whats REALLY going on in WT land. Those poor active Witnesses just don't have a clue what really goes on do they.

  To OUR future.......and long may it last!!!
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  The Very Latest Candace Conti vs. The Watchtower News

  by God_Delusion in

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  2. scandals

  we all saw this coming - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/latest-candace-conti-news/.

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  Can this be real???

  Does this mark the beginning of their demise I wonder.

  Wow! Never thought I'd see them in so much trouble.

  Do they know about the laughing dog?

  That's the most humiliating part!
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  NEW LIGHT in latest Watchtower!!!

  by The Searcher in

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  2. bible

  literally hundreds and hundreds of quotations like the one below have been made, to "prove" that only the heavenly -hopers are "sons of god".

  (type in 'spiritual sons of god' in cd rom).

  "jehovah forgives the error of the other sheep on the basis of jesus shed blood of the covenant.

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  Also I agrre with Room 215: WE do flatter them when we study what they write.

  As the saying goes; I won't dignify that stupid question with a sensible answer.

  Even to question their writings is to lend it credence.

  But still we do it because we are all human ;)
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  NEW LIGHT in latest Watchtower!!!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  literally hundreds and hundreds of quotations like the one below have been made, to "prove" that only the heavenly -hopers are "sons of god".

  (type in 'spiritual sons of god' in cd rom).

  "jehovah forgives the error of the other sheep on the basis of jesus shed blood of the covenant.

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  Children of God but not sons of God. I think you'll find that they differentiate between the two and see no contradiction in their statement that we are all 'children of God' but not 'sons of God' who as heirs would, naturally, inherit the kingdom.

  Don't worry, they have it all sewn up watertight and anything they write is extremely well calculated.
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  Thoughts on the current Governing Body

  by JRK in

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  here is a list of the current governing body members:.

  gerrit losch: born 1942, appointed july 1, 1994 .

  guy h. pierce: born 1935, appointed oct. 1, 1999 .

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  One of them was born in 1955!

  We were always told that they were getting older. Bloody younger more like!

  I wish Russel and Rutherford could see things now.
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  Who or what are you most angry at, when it comes to your situation in relation to JW Org?

  by BreathoftheIndianNose in

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  i've been receiving very bitter messages from jws i know, mostly my mother, but also others that know how to contact me electronically.

  sometimes i find myself mad at her, though not displaying it.

  but i know it's really not her or my fathers fault.

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  Angry at myself for being hoodwinked I guess.

  I know they are a cult but I was young, ignorant and foolish to get involved and I blame myself for that.

  What doesn't break ya makes ya stronger though-and I feel like wrestling monsters!

  Since the day I left I've had a fire in my belly and it's never gone out ;)
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  An ex-Jehovah's Witness turns Cult Leader

  by iamwhoiam in

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  2. friends

  i can't believe i just now heard of this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2oa4oigvo.

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  enjoy!.

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  erbie

  I could not think of the term earlier but the method he uses is called coercive persuasion (identical to the WT$). The end result may differ slightly but the groundwork remains the same.

  This is much more affective (and dangerous) than brainwashing as you get your followers to do what YOU want them to do by convincing them that they really WANT to do it.

  Brainwashing is far less effective as it relies on getting a person to act against their will.
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  An ex-Jehovah's Witness turns Cult Leader

  by iamwhoiam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can't believe i just now heard of this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml2oa4oigvo.

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  enjoy!.

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  Well, from one cult to another I guess.

  Very worrying. His methods are very similar to the WT$ but with the end result being more pronounced.