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  "I just want to keep them alive."

  by cedars in

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  does anyone ever feel this way when they see older family members (parents, grandparents etc) growing old or experiencing failing health?.

  do you ever feel that you should be able to somehow keep them alive - and feel frustrated and hopeless that you can't?.

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  erbie

  Yes Cedars, I do know.

  I lost my mother to cancer not long ago.

  Watching her suffer and being unable to do anything about it made me feel worse than useless.

  For all my strength and determination I was powerless against it.

  I know that I will carry it for the rest of my life and in some ways I am pleased to do so as I will never forget.

  I think that being brainwashed into believing I would never see my parents grow old and die made it harder to accept. The realization that I had been lied to is a bitter pill to swallow I'm afraid.

  A beginning has an end of course.
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  Impossibility for the Garden of Eden, the rivers do not match up.

  by jam in

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  genesis identifies four rivers that went out of eden, pishon,.

  gihon, tigris and euphrates.

  clearly known to us, but the gihon is described as being in.

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  erbie

  What about Father Christmas, are we to believe that he also is just a work of fiction?

  I just don't know what to believe anymore!
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  Are you now ashamed of how gullible you were as a JW?

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that you realise how idiotic some of the jw beliefs are/were, do you feel ashamed of how gullible you were to believe them?.

  if anything my past as an adult jw makes me understand how easily manipulated people are by the people and environment around them.

  and that even intelligent people can be influenced beyond what is rational..

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  erbie

  Yes, I guess I do feel ashamed of being so gullible. Worst of all, I let my children go along with it but at least they were happy when we left-better than a trip to Disney World I would imagine!

  Anyway, yes, second paragraph: agree with you entirely. It has nothing to do with intelligence so none of us must doubt ourselves. I know people who are still following the WT who are seemingly very inteligent. Perhaps they all are.

  I think of it this way; a mule is supposedly an animal of fairly low intelligence yet is very difficult to manipulate or train. Hence the saying 'stubborn mule, digging its heels in'.

  A dog, on the other hand, supposedly highly intelligent, is very easy to manipulate the behaviour of, not stubborn but always eager to please its master for the reward of 'food at the proper time'.

  Maybe the mule is actually more intelligent and consequently won't alllow itself to be manipulated and thus made a fool of
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  "Strong hope enables us to resist apostates and their gangrenous 'empty speeches.'"

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  those obviously aren't my words, they are from the latest study edition of the watchtower (april 15th, 2013) page 11.. .

  it's nice to know that, not only are we "mentally diseased" - we are also now "gangrenous.

  " since the society seems to enjoy using medical terms to insult us, are there any bets what the next published insult will be?

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  erbie

  Yes, I think they got caught short a long time ago.

  Hook, line and stinker!
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  A picture so outrageous, it deserves its own thread...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean no disrespect to sd-7 or his fine thread on which this picture has already featured, but i think it is just so ridiculous that it deserves a thread all of its own.. lurkers and apologists, this is how your precious organization views itself.... behold the madness.... .

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  erbie

  breakfast of champions: indeed it would be a better place!

  Perhaps we can dig out some more nice things to post here
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  Why is the New World Translation inaccurate/not reliable?

  by XPeterX in

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  have you noticed any errors when it comes to translation or something added arbitrarily by the witnesses?if so,please post the related verses so we can see the differences..

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  erbie

  I always thought it should be re-written in English.

  That, at least, would make it more readable!

  Very poorly written :(

  But then, what do you expect from those morons?

  A work of literature?
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  A picture so outrageous, it deserves its own thread...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean no disrespect to sd-7 or his fine thread on which this picture has already featured, but i think it is just so ridiculous that it deserves a thread all of its own.. lurkers and apologists, this is how your precious organization views itself.... behold the madness.... .

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  erbie

  This brings to mind The Ambassadors by Hans Holbein where the subject rests his arm against the globe thus symbolizing his dominance over worldly affairs (trade and commerce).

  Never mind resting your arm against the world, those WT guys are sitting on it. How audacious can you get!

  Yes, it really does show you just how, and to what level they view their own authority.

  Think I'd rather be ruled by these guys. At least their picture only contains one dodgy image (skull), unlike WT material which contains many.

  
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  "Strong hope enables us to resist apostates and their gangrenous 'empty speeches.'"

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  those obviously aren't my words, they are from the latest study edition of the watchtower (april 15th, 2013) page 11.. .

  it's nice to know that, not only are we "mentally diseased" - we are also now "gangrenous.

  " since the society seems to enjoy using medical terms to insult us, are there any bets what the next published insult will be?

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  They are obviously suffering from an extreme case of verbal diarrhoea, alhough it usually passes after a few days and they've been suffering with it for over a hundred years now.

  I think they should see a doctor quite soon before it becomes more serious.

  I know they are following their father, CT Russell, but its no excuse to say that diarrhoea runs in your genes.

  They really should get it seen to!!!
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  The NEXT New Light

  by problemaddict in

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  2. beliefs

  so i am pretty sure some long timers here, as well as franz, essentially predicted the next "new light" by simply picking out the inconsistant non-sustainable beliefs that had expiration dates as to freshness.. if i am not mistaken, franz said this was the generation teaching at the time he wrote his book.. so......what do you guys think is next?

  seriously..

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  erbie

  Just a continued, growing sense of disillusionment I would imagine.

  I think it will die a very, very slow death.

  It may never die completely in the literal sense so don't hold your breath.

  A far worse punishment for the WT is the majority of people's dismissive stance toward it.

  Nobody likes being ignored or not being taken seriously. It destroys the soul.

  Presuming they have one!
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  New GB Light - Increased JWN Membership?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm relatively new here.

  this is a question to admin / longer members.. have you noticed a greater influx of membership here since the 'new lighttm' regarding the 'governing body' was revealed?.

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  erbie

  True, I learn loads on here. I know an active elder and he can't believe the things I know. In short, it would appear that I know more than he does!

  goodsoul - well done indeed!!!