I have some interesting information about Ray on my new website.
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New Web Address:
http://timeshadowed.comlu.com/JW/JWandOccult.html
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Ray Franz Passed Away Today
by Amazing ini just received word that ray franz passed away today at 1:37 pm eastern daylight time.
the cause of death is stated as head trauma, likely due to falling to the ground, and a stroke could have also been part of the cause or a result of the fall.
he died at emory university hospital in atlanta about 17 minutes after being taken off life support.
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Seeking Clarification About Ray
by Cthulhu ini do not wish to belabor the subject, but i am a smidge confussed.
i understand that his chances do not look good and everyone seems in agreement as to his condition but...has ray actually died?
i ask because the last i heard was that support was soon to be removed, but wikipedia lists his date of death as today.
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I'm so sorry to read that Ray has gone to the great beyond.
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Cynthia Franz Contact Information
by Outaservice inhi everyone,.
many have expressed a desire to show sympathy and concern for cynthia franz somehow and wonder the best way they can do this or how they can help.. if you would like to write a letter or card to her and/or send her a little gift contribution, the following address would be best and safest.. cynthia franz, c/o commentary press, po box 43532, atlanta, ga 30336-0502.. thank you..
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Thanks for the information.
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A Tribute to Ray Franz - Touching Comments on How he Helped People
by flipper ini'm sure this link has been posted already- but i wasn't sure.
but this was a well done tribute by wt comments .
in case some missed it.
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He will be greatly missed!
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Special conference call tribute to Ray Franz. Many of his friends, Peter Gregerson, Randy Watters, Tom Cabeen, Barbara and Joe Anderson will be on the call
by koolaid-man informer jehovah's witness and watchtower historian, richard rawe who hosts the program "dialogue" is having a special program in tribute to ray franz, former governing body member, saturday june 12 at 7p.m.est.
many of ray's friends will be calling in to talk about how ray influenced their lives and helped so many people to see the falsehoods of the watchtower organization.
some of richard's scheduled guests will be peter gregerson, randy watters, tom cabeen, ron frye, barbara and joe anderson and many others who were "touched by ray".
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Sad to see this man is now gone.
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Dansk
by faundy injust to let everyone on here who knows my dad, that he is seriously ill, and unfortunately on life support.
he has renal and respiratory failure as a result of the quickest onset of pneumonia i have ever seen... it came on in the early hours of this morning.
he is waiting for an intensive care bed but the nearest one is 200 miles away.
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I'm so sorry to read of his passing - I have followed his health journey here on JWD for many, many years now. His loss to this world is truly a tragic loss.
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Goodbye to JWD ... hello to JWN !
by Simon inas i announced some time ago, jwd as it is will not continue .... ... but .... it's clear from people's comments that they do like the site and many would like it or something else like it to continue.. one issue was the forum software that was self-developed and not really in a good state to hand-over to anyone but i've been working on that and can now reveal the first release of what will probably be called jwn (son of jwd):.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/.
it is still work-in-progress so not all features are enabled yet but it will allow you to browse the site in a similar way to this one and it is pointing at the same database (although because of the way the caching works, new posts made on this site won't appear immediately).
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Thank you Simon! I have one simple request - Could we still have the simple security code pix that is on this site - the new one is very difficult to see clearly. My eyes are not the best anymore. Thanks
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I Saw My Mother's Time Slip
by StAnn ini took my mother a plate of food today, thanksgiving dinner.
she won't cook it because it's, well, thanksgiving, but she was sitting there waiting for me to bring her a plate of turkey and dressing.
i came in and said, "mom, i brought you some food.
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They are poisoning our children and they don't care !
by oldflame infda finds traces of melamine in us infant formula.
reuters a child suffering from kidney stones receives medical treatment at a hospital in hefei, anhui province traces of the industrial chemical melamine have been detected in samples of top-selling u.s. infant formula, but federal regulators insist the products are safe.
the food and drug administration said last month it was unable to identify any melamine exposure level as safe for infants, but a top official said it would be a "dangerous overreaction" for parents to stop feeding infant formula to babies who depend on it.. "the levels that we are detecting are extremely low," said dr. stephen sundlof, director of the fda's center for food safety and applied nutrition.
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94MVD4G0&show_article=1
Calls for national infant formula recall spread
Nov 26 09:19 PM US/Eastern
By MARTHA MENDOZA and JUSTIN PRITCHARD
Associated Press Writers
Disclosure that laboratory tests have detected traces of contamination in several major brands of infant formula generated concern and confusion Wednesday, with a national consumer's group and the Illinois attorney general demanding a Food and Drug Administration recall and the federal agency saying it had released inaccurate information on what chemicals were found in which top selling products.
As worried parents called manufacturers looking for guidance about the presence of melamine and a key byproduct in U.S.-made formula, the FDA reiterated its position that the baby food is safe and parents should continue feeding it to their babies, contending the extremely low levels of contamination do not present a health danger.
Also, a spokesman for one major manufacturer criticized the FDA for its release of the inaccurate information.
"We're getting inundated by calls from moms confused about the situation," said Pete Paradossi, a spokesman for Mead Johnson, one of the three major manufacturers of U.S.-made formula involved in the problem detections.
v Melamine is the industrial chemical found in Chinese infant formula—in far larger concentrations—that has been blamed for killing at least three babies and making at least 50,000 others ill.
The FDA and other experts said the melamine contamination in U.S.-made formula had occurred during the manufacturing process, rather than intentionally as was done in Chinese production. The manufacturers insist their products are safe.
"The levels that we are detecting are extremely low," said Dr. Stephen Sundlof, director of the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. "They should not be changing the diet. If they've been feeding a particular product, they should continue to feed that product. That's in the best interest of the baby."
Part of the confusion Wednesday stemmed from the FDA's own statements.
While proclaiming that the very low concentrations detected of melamine and a similar compound called cyanuric acid pose no health danger to infants, the FDA has maintained it is unable to identify any exposure level of melamine in infant formula "that does not raise public health concerns."
Further complicating the situation was inaccurate data that FDA released to The Associated Press, which was first to disclose the formulas' brand names and other details in an investigative report Tuesday.
A spreadsheet the AP obtained from the FDA under a Freedom of Information Act request stated that Mead Johnson's Infant Formula Powder, Enfamil LIPIL with Iron contained traces of melamine.
On Wednesday, FDA spokeswoman Judy Leon said that spreadsheet contained an error—that the FDA had incorrectly switched the names of the Mead Johnson product with Nestle's Good Start Supreme Infant Formula with Iron. That meant, Leon said, that the Nestle's Good Start had melamine while Mead Johnson's Enfamil had traces of cyanuric acid.
The FDA said last month that the toxicity of cyanuric acid is under study, but that in the meantime it is "prudent" to assume that its potency is equal to that of melamine.
Problems with melamine-spiked formula surfaced this fall in China, where unscrupulous manufacturers intentionally dumped it into watered-down milk to falsely elevate protein levels. The concentrations in China were as much as 2,500 parts per million—about 10,000 times greater than what the FDA found in the U.S.
The FDA said there have been no reports in the United States of human illness from melamine. The chemical, which legally can be used in product packaging and a solution to clean manufacturing equipment, can bind with other chemicals in urine, potentially causing damaging stones in the kidney or bladder and, in extreme cases, kidney failure.
Mead Johnson spokesman Paradossi said he was frustrated that the FDA had provided inaccurate information for worldwide distribution by the AP. He said the FDA informed his company of the test results, as well as the inaccurate disclosures only Wednesday, during an emergency conference call the agency staged with major manufacturers and the industry's trade group. During a similar call Monday, the FDA told the industry about the upcoming AP investigative report.
Nestle did not returns calls seeking comment Wednesday.
At the same time, Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan called on the state's public health department and the FDA to recall both the Nestle and Mead Johnson products—and urged the companies to take that step regardless of what any government agency does.
Madigan also criticized the FDA's handling of its test results.
"The agency apparently withheld the results of its testing from the public for over three weeks, and then only disclosed the information in response to a FOIA request by The Associated Press," she wrote in a letter to Michael Leavitt, the secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the FDA.
As for possible consideration of a recall, the FDA's Leon said: "The agency would only seek to remove a product on the basis of a risk, based on scientific evidence. That's not what we're talking about here."
v Consumers Union said that the FDA's assurances are of small comfort to parents and caregivers.
"The FDA originally said there was no safe level for these contaminants in infant formula. So this formula is contaminated," said Jean Halloran, the group's director of Food Policy Initiatives. "It is very disturbing to us that no recall has been requested."
She urged the FDA "to immediately make public all of the results of its tests for melamine contamination in food," even those with levels below what would trigger agency action."
During a series of calls with formula manufacturers starting Monday—put together hurriedly, according to several participants, as the AP was preparing to publish its story—the FDA has told manufacturers it has taken 230 samples of various products, including pediatric supplements and ingredients used in infant formula. Leon said that 87 of those samples are of infant formula, and that 77 of those have been analyzed.
Under the corrected information she relayed Wednesday, the results were:
—Nestle's Good Start Supreme Infant Formula with Iron had two positive tests for melamine on one sample, with readings of 0.137 and 0.14 parts per million.
—Mead Johnson's Infant Formula Powder, Enfamil LIPIL with Iron had three positive tests for cyanuric acid, at an average of 0.247 parts per million.
Separately, a third major formula maker—Abbott Laboratories, whose brands include Similac—told AP that in-house tests had detected trace levels of melamine in its infant formula. Those levels were below what FDA found in the other formulas, an Abbott spokesman said, and below any nation's safety guidelines.
v The three firms—Abbott Laboratories, Nestle and Mead Johnson—manufacture more than 90 percent of all infant formula produced in the United States.
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They are poisoning our children and they don't care !
by oldflame infda finds traces of melamine in us infant formula.
reuters a child suffering from kidney stones receives medical treatment at a hospital in hefei, anhui province traces of the industrial chemical melamine have been detected in samples of top-selling u.s. infant formula, but federal regulators insist the products are safe.
the food and drug administration said last month it was unable to identify any melamine exposure level as safe for infants, but a top official said it would be a "dangerous overreaction" for parents to stop feeding infant formula to babies who depend on it.. "the levels that we are detecting are extremely low," said dr. stephen sundlof, director of the fda's center for food safety and applied nutrition.
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jgnat,
Here are the amounts that have been found so far:
"According to FDA data for tests of 77 infant formula samples, a trace concentration of melamine was detected in one product — Mead Johnson's Infant Formula Powder, Enfamil LIPIL with Iron. An FDA spreadsheet shows two tests were conducted on the Enfamil, with readings of 0.137 and 0.14 parts per million."
The quote was taken from here:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j7SAbhJj3By_isZUoRAgTOPHzwkQD94M8T7G1