NewLight2

Joined

• started 23 topics
• posted 769 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by NewLight2

• 
  27

  How would you answer this?

  by NewLight2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an e-mail that i recieved regarding one of my web pages.

  i thought that i'd let the "dude" see some of your answers!

  i will e-mail him this url for his answer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Eagle,
  
  Here is a current thread in progress that will show you just how hurtful the Religion of the Watchtower can be:
  
  Depressed and about to lose it by AloneinOH
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/81682/1.ashx
  
  NewLight2
• 
  42

  Depressed and about to lose it

  by AloneinOh in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once i left i became about as "worldly" as a person could get.

  world that once i left i went totally out of control.

  when i left, .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Welcome AloneinOH! Several here have said that you should not share your newly acquired knowledge with your parents/family yet. However, I feel that if you could get an original copy of the article that you read about the sale of Watchtower property that was purchased in 1974, THAT could be shown to them in the context of sharing a news article that has distrubed YOU very much. Let them read the article themselves and then ask this simple question, "Why was the Watchtower buying property for furture use while at the time saying the "end" was so near?" Just let them think about it the same way you did. DO NOT pursue the issue with them at this time. Just let nature take its time. If they want to discuss it with you, relate your feelings to them without giving them anymore knowledge then what is in that article. Who knows, maybe THEY will do their OWN research into the matter just like you did. NewLight2
• 
  27

  How would you answer this?

  by NewLight2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an e-mail that i recieved regarding one of my web pages.

  i thought that i'd let the "dude" see some of your answers!

  i will e-mail him this url for his answer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Kenneson,
  
  The title of my "links page" is as follows:
  
  "The Occult, Egypt and the Watchtower"
  http://www.geocities.com/newlight_2/Links1.html
  
  On that page is this:
  "A Winged Solar Disk On a JW Assembly Hall, Queens, New York"
  
  The above link title will open to a page entitled:
  
  "Masonic Symbols and the Watchtower Society (Jehovah's Witnesses)"
  "A Jehovah's Witness Assembly Hall With Masonic Symbols On Building!!!"
  http://www.geocities.com/newlight_2/JW_QueensAssemHall.html
  
  It was the above page that the emailer was inquiring about. All of my statements are correct, since the building in question WAS a Masonic Hall prior to being purchased by the Watchtower. The major theme of my pages in question are correct also, since the title of the first page was:
  
  "The Occult, Egypt and the Watchtower"
  
  My pages do not claim that C T Russel was a Mason himself. That conclusion was made ONLY by posters to this thread. When "Eagle" asked be to respond to his questions in the email, I did include links to several other pages that were not mine. I did this because he had asked me (quote):
  
  "Dude where or even better who did you run into to get such a whacked point of view."
  
  I hope this clairifies the matter for you. In fact, the original reason I made the page about the Assembly Hall was that someone had asked for the URL to the pictures on a forum. I had the pix saved on diskette so I quickly made the page and posted MY URL.
  
  There are many questions to be answered regarding the early history of C T Russell and the Watchtower that no one will probably ever be able to answer for sure, but those of us with "inquiring minds" will keep asking anyway.
  
  NewLight2
• 
  27

  How would you answer this?

  by NewLight2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an e-mail that i recieved regarding one of my web pages.

  i thought that i'd let the "dude" see some of your answers!

  i will e-mail him this url for his answer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Kenneson:
  "How can you conclude that Russell was a Freemason?"
  
  No where on my pages do I say that Russell was a "Freemason" himself.
  The point that I'm making is that, in the past, the Watchtower Society has used "pagan symbols" on their publications. Therefore, there ARE pagan roots to the Watchtower Society or they would not have allowed those symbols to appear on their publications.
• 
  27

  How would you answer this?

  by NewLight2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an e-mail that i recieved regarding one of my web pages.

  i thought that i'd let the "dude" see some of your answers!

  i will e-mail him this url for his answer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Thanks Kenneson. I'll check out those urls.
  
  shamus, I do not defend 'the organization'. Are you aware that there is/was another poster who used the screenname "newlight"? My screen name is "NewLight2".
  
  "newlight" and "NewLight2" are not the same posters.
• 
  27

  How would you answer this?

  by NewLight2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an e-mail that i recieved regarding one of my web pages.

  i thought that i'd let the "dude" see some of your answers!

  i will e-mail him this url for his answer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Eagle:
  "Now let me ask you something, are you upset because members of
  your family joined up with the witnesses? If so why? was this country built on the belief of freedom of religion, or was it just your religion that needs to be free?"
  
  I have no family that are JW's, but I do see the destructive nature of "high control groups" of which the Watchtower Society and Jehovah's Witnesses are. I believe in freedom of religion, but one cannot be "free" and a JW at the same time. This group destroys lives and splits families. I hope the following URLs will answer your questions regarding this matter.
  
  Please read the experiences of those who post here that have been involved with the JW's and have left this "high control group". You will find many such stories within the following forums here at JWD:
  
  Child Abuse - Child Molestation & Abuse Issues (silentlambs)
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/default.ashx
  
  Blood, Medical Treatment & Depression
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/default.ashx
  
  Scandals & Coverups
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/default.ashx
  
  Personal Experiences & Reunions
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/default.ashx
  
  Eagle:
  "I have personally not seen any symbols on any of the watchtowers or any other publications put out by the witnesses I have however seen them on other religions publications."
  
  The "Winged Solar Disk" appeared on older copies of C T Russell's 'Studies in the Scriptures' series. You can view one book in the series, 'The Divine Plan of the Ages', at this URL:
  
  http://www.geocities.com/newlight_2/WingedSolarDisks.html
  
  Here is an early Watchtower Cover with the cross and crown (Masonic) symbol
  http://www.exjws.net/museum/earlyWTcover.jpg
  
  See Also:
  http://www.exjws.net/museum/masonry.htm
  
  
  For more information on the Pagan Roots of Jehovah's Witnesses:
  http://www.macgregorministries.org/jehovahs_witnesses/jw_pagan_roots/pagan_roots.html
  
  Russell's Burial Site and Pyramid
  http://www.freeminds.org/history/cemetary.htm
  
  Was C.T. Russell a Mason?
  http://www.exjws.net/museum/masonry.htm
• 
  27

  How would you answer this?

  by NewLight2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an e-mail that i recieved regarding one of my web pages.

  i thought that i'd let the "dude" see some of your answers!

  i will e-mail him this url for his answer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Here is the page the the email was referring to:
  A Winged Solar Disk On a JW Assembly Hall,Queens, New York
  "http://www.geocitiescom/newlight_2/JW_QueensAssemHall.html">
  http://www.geocitiescom/newlight_2/JW_QueensAssemHall.html
  
  
  Whether or not the WT removed the symbols is not the point. The fact remains that the Watchtower Society was perfectly content to hold Assemblies in that building WHILE on the outside there WERE "pagan" symbols!
• 
  27

  How would you answer this?

  by NewLight2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an e-mail that i recieved regarding one of my web pages.

  i thought that i'd let the "dude" see some of your answers!

  i will e-mail him this url for his answer.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  This is an e-mail that I recieved regarding one of my web pages. I thought that I'd let the "dude" see some of your answers! I will e-mail him this URL for his answer. Don't let me down you guys!! ;-)) NewLight2 This is his email to me: Re: Masonic Symbols and the
  Watchtower Society "Dude where or even better who did you run into to get such a whacked point of view. that building is not a new one, it was a movie theater. Those symbols were probably there when the building was purchased. and as they believe religion is an ongoing learning they may not have been aware at the time of the symbolism's. the masons call no affiliation with the witnesses, or vica-versa. I have seen newly built assembly halls that were built by witnesses and that stuff does not I repeat NOT show up on them. Now let me ask you something, are you upset because members of your family joined up with the witnesses? If so why? was this country built on the belief of freedom of religion, or was it just your religion that needs to be free? In 2 Kings it says "Judge not lest yee be judged the same." Just thought you needed to hear that. Look foward to your comments on the freedom of religion or anything else you might want to rant about." "
• 
  15

  a little confused....

  by gerbils in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been brought up as a jw, and i am now 20 years old, am away from home at university and have an agnostic boyfriend.

  not your ideal jw girl by any means!

  all my jw mates are baptised now, and i've managed to hold off til now.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  You might want to check out these two pages. The first one contains many links to important information regarding the Watchtower Society.
  
  NewLight2's Links Page
  
  Johannes Greber's Home Page
• 
  14

  Help Pass The National Sex Offender Registry Act of 2004

  by NewLight2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5096002.html .

  http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm .

  http://www.house.gov/writerep/ .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  NewLight2

  Out from the shadows
  RUBÉN ROSARIO
  Pioneer Press
  http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/10347857.htm
  
  
  'After years of physical and
  mental abuse, I couldn't help at the time. I would like to help
  now, for those that are still afraid to speak.' Amy Blom,
  ex-wife of Donald Blom
  
  Out from the shadows
  
  The woman who stood by one of Minnesota's most notorious
  killers is ready to talk after years of shame and depression.
  
  The e-mail sent to two Minnesota legislators last week was
  brief but spoke volumes.
  
  "I was married to Donald Blom, a six-time sex offender who
  was released from prison and killed Katie Poirier,'' the e-mail
  from Amy Blom begins. "After years of physical and mental
  abuse, I couldn't help at the time. I would like to help now, for
  those that are still afraid to speak."
  
  For seven years, Amy Blom, 38, says she endured black eyes,
  punches, bruises and constant verbal put-downs at the hands of
  her ex-husband, one of the most reviled criminals in recent
  memory. The mention of her husband's name, as well as that of
  Dru Sjodin's suspected killer, evoke images of cold-blooded
  killers and repeat sexual predators who should have been kept
  locked up.
  
  Now, the woman who stood by and lied for a 55-year-old
  convicted sex predator and killer is slowly but finally emerging
  from the shadows of the "guilt, shame and depression'' she says
  she feels surrounding the Poirier case.
  
  "I have looked back so many times and know in my state of
  mind and the control he had over me I would not have been
  capable of doing different,'' Blom said last week as she sat in
  the kitchen of her immaculately clean Richfield home.
  
  "I have never spoken to the Poirier family or know if they
  would ever want to hear from me, but I would like to ask for
  forgiveness,'' added Blom, who has been treated for
  post-traumatic stress disorder and battered woman's syndrome.
  "I don't want to make the situation worse, as much pain as they
  are in.''
  
  On the night of May 26, 1999, a grainy surveillance video
  caught a man resembling Blom, whose legal name is Donald
  Michael Pince, with his hands to the back of Poirier's neck,
  leading her out of the Moose Lake, Minn., convenience store
  where she worked.
  
  She was never seen alive again. Human bone fragments and a
  tooth identified as Poirier's were found in a fire pit on Donald
  Blom's nearby vacation property. Blom, with a string of
  abductions and sexual assaults of young females in his past,
  confessed to the abduction and murder of the 19-year-old
  Poirier. But he later recanted and went to trial.
  
  He was convicted and sentenced to life without parole. For
  safety reasons, he was moved out of Minnesota and is serving
  time in Waynesburg, Pa. He could not be reached for comment
  last week.
  
  Earlier this year, concerned her husband could win an appeal to
  overturn the conviction, Amy Blom contacted authorities and
  admitted that Donald Blom was not home the night of Poirier's
  abduction, as she had told investigators at the time. The appeal
  ultimately failed.
  
  "I don't believe that I could have prevented it (Poirier's
  murder),'' said Blom, who was not aware of her husband's
  criminal history or previous marriages until his arrest in the
  case. "I was so under his power, in fear of him, but at the same
  time connected to him. When they accused him, it was like
  they were accusing me and my children. I know now that I was
  in many ways his hostage, paralyzed to speak up.''
  
  Susan Neis, executive director of Cornerstone, a domestic
  violence program in Bloomington where Blom and some of her
  children have sought counseling, says Blom's experiences are
  common among victims of spousal abuse.
  
  "There is no more horrific pain I can imagine than someone
  losing their daughter like that,'' Neis said of Poirier's parents.
  "But I think what the public doesn't realize in Amy Blom's case
  is that she and her children were also victims of this man."
  
  Amy Blom, a former nursing home assistant, married Pince, a
  maintenance worker, in 1992. Amy Blom's two sons from a
  previous marriage ? then 6 and 1 ? considered their mother's
  husband as their father. The marriage also produced two
  daughters, now ages 10 and 11.
  
  Blom thought it strange but flattering that her husband took her
  last name, unaware he had done the same twice before with
  ex-wives she did not know about. Authorities believe he did
  that to conceal his criminal record from employers, cops and
  others.
  
  Donald Blom's demeanor toward his wife changed drastically
  six months into the marriage, she said. Angry disputes turned
  physical.
  
  "He is bipolar and there were two sides to him,'' Amy Blom
  said. "He would be happy, a jokester fixing stuff around the
  house and he was a great cook. He would make these great
  five- or six-course dinners. But then something would happen,
  something would trigger in him, and then I knew the change
  was coming.''
  
  His two sons witnessed some of the assaults.
  
  "He yelled at her constantly,'' recalled Chris Blom, now 19 and
  a laborer working to complete his high school GED. "I saw him
  hit her. She would have black eyes and stuff. He scared the hell
  out of me.''
  
  Blom's other son, now 14, also has been treated for
  post-traumatic stress and oppositional defiant disorders, and
  has been in and out of heath care facilities for three years, his
  mother said.
  
  Wallflower timid, Amy Blom said she felt constantly on edge,
  wanting to make her husband happy and not do anything that
  would provoke an episode.
  
  The disbelief over the arrest, the taunts endured by her sons at
  school and a relentless news media that camped outside the
  home for weeks drove her to become more supportive and
  protective of her husband and family.
  
  "He said he didn't do it, and it felt like when they accused him,
  they were accusing me also,'' she recalled.
  
  She tried desperately to believe her husband's proclamation of
  innocence. But deep down, she had doubts. She recalled a
  conversation while he was being held for trial after authorities
  discovered the human remains in the fire pit.
  
  "Don, but what about those human bones they found?'' she
  recalled asking him over the phone.
  
  "You're not f - - - - - - stupid, are you?'' she said he responded.
  Blom has steadfastly maintained he did not kill Poirier.
  
  She is convinced her husband may have committed more
  crimes.
  
  She and others are curious about his connection to the unsolved
  1983 murder of Wilma Jean Johnson, a 42-year-old homeless
  drifter whose strangled, battered and nude body was
  discovered outside the Cathedral of St. Paul's chancery.
  
  Blom, then in jail awaiting trial in Dakota County for sexually
  assaulting a teenage girl, called St. Paul police investigators
  days after the 1983 murder and volunteered that he had
  witnessed part of the assault on the woman, and could describe
  the assailant.
  
  "He said he knew he had done bad, but that he wanted to pay
  his debt to society by coming forward,'' recalled Jim Frank, a
  case investigator and now the Washington County sheriff.
  
  A black homeless man was arrested, chiefly based on Blom's
  description of the killer. But the man was let go because of a
  lack of evidence.
  
  After the Poirier case broke, Frank remembered Blom and
  contacted St. Paul police, suggesting they might want to give
  the cold case another eye. The case remains open.
  
  "What struck me about it is that he said he was sitting on a park
  bench when it happened, and there was supposedly a torrential
  downpour that night,'' Amy Blom said. "I also remember Don
  and I were watching an episode of 'Law and Order' several
  years back and he casually commented that all homeless people
  and prostitutes are better off dead."
  
  State Reps. Kurt Zellers, R-Maple Grove, and Doug Meslow,
  R-White Bear Lake, who plan to reintroduce legislation that
  calls for harsher penalties against repeat sex predators,
  received the e-mails from Amy Blom.
  
  "I really do appreciate what she did, and her courage for doing
  so,'' Zellers said. "We welcome her gesture.''
  
  Blom also sent an e-mail to U.S. Sen. Mark Dayton, D-Minn.,
  offering her help in ensuring that a proposed national sex
  offender registry named after Dru Sjodin becomes law.
  
  "We appreciate the offer and would love to work with her as
  this issue moves forward,'' said a spokesman for Dayton.
  
  Amy Blom, who obtained a divorce two years ago and no
  longer corresponds with her ex-husband, says she's not looking
  for pity or empathy or absolution.
  
  She just wants predators like her husband put away and kept
  there. She wants her children to be proud of one of their
  parents, to one day be able to shed the cloak of stigma and
  shame draped on them by their father's crimes.
  
  "They are suffering also,'' she said. "I have a hard time
  forgiving myself for what happened. I don't know if I ever will,
  but I need to come forward because there are people right now
  living in the same situation I was in.''
  
  
  Rubén Rosario can be reached at [email protected]