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  Do/did you sing in the Kingdom Hall meetings against you will?

  by Mr Fool in

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  i m a little curious because i have hard to see that every single person has the interest to stand up and sing in the beginning and in the end of every meeting...... what will happen if you are interested in the so called truth, not to stand up and sing a song against your will?!

  then, is it okay to sit down like normal when everybody else copy each other (stand up an sing a certain text/song) as parrots?.

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  During the last days of my time going to meetings I would either not sing, or purposely sing the wrong song - as loud as I could.
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  Any gay exJW's?

  by Trapped in JW land in

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  was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?

  and also, how did you end up leaving?.

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  While I a not gay, I understand the concept of "in the closet." I lived this for years as a witness knowing fully TTATT.

  I also know gay ex witneses, and one is a very special friend of me and my family. The fact that individuals are born gay was one of the things that took me over the top when I was figuring out if religion was right for me.

  How could god allow individuals to be gay and not allow these same people into his fold? This was the question that I struggled with and finially came to the conclusion that god does not matter.

  I hope you connect with the best support system. Good luck. If you are in NYC and have a bottle of wine, look me up and we can talk.
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  So Spill the Beans, Brothers: Were There More or Fewer At this Year's Bore-Fest

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jw date-worshipped memorial has just completed its bleak worldwide commemoration.

  that wasn't a dust cloud you saw; it was a millionfold hearts limply beating themselves into another round of great tribulation expectations.

  i was knocked into a deep, deep sleep by the imagined experience of being at several thousand consecutive kingdom halls as the platformed drones spat forth the predictable sludge that, once released, hits and stains white clothing and bleach is useless.. we know that memorial attendance worldwide has dipped for two consecutive years since 2011 when it reached a high of 19,374,737 and for the promised land, obama's usa, the all time memorial attendance high was also 2011 when it hit over 2.5million (2,563,518) but shrunk in shame back to 2,502,055 in 2012 and spluttered upwards a handful or two to 2,504,114 last year.. so, what was attendance at the date-obsessed bore-fest this year in your neck of the woods?

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  If it happens to hit 20M, does that mean we have found the TRUTH? Can we relate numbers to the truth? I as this as a emperically testable research question. What numbers related to the truth are statistically significant? But then, we have to define the variable "what is truth?"
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  Gods turf

  by darth frosty in

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  I hated it when people start presenting logical arguments.
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  Do you know Kevin Brown from Houston, Texas?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i was wondering if he is still in the organization.

  part of me thinks he is out by now.

  you can pm me if you know him.

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  Have you tried tracking him down through the intenet. I did a quick search and found a few Kevin Browns in Houston. I am sure you can find him and give him a call. Based upon what you suspect he will be happy to hear from you.

  When I was evolving out of the organization after I learned TTATT, while it never occurred to me at the time, I can recall comments that clearly suggest that I was not the only one struggling with their faith.

  If I was Kevin I would really appreciate a call from you. Keep us posted.
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  Essay by Barbara Anderson: "What's in a Name?"

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  whats in a name?

  posted on april 15, 2014 by barbara anderson http://watchtowerdocuments.org/whats-in-a-name/ .entry-meta-icons .entry-meta .

  .entry-header one morning at bethel in 1989, after the usual text discussion before breakfast, there was an announcement to the staff about the legalization of jehovahs witnesses in poland.

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  I feel so smart when I read your posts. Or at least I hopeyour wisdom and intellect rubs off on me. As they say, “hope springs eternal.”

  Thank you for your insights.
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  Special Talk Outline 2014 - Does anyone have it?

  by gbrn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was wondering if the upcoming special talk outline has been available by way of a leak?

  if not and somebody has access to it, can we somehow get it uploaded for us.

  i may be in a position where i attend with family, and would like to know what i'm in for.. thanks!.

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  If you go, see if you can get an answer to this:

  GOD HATES THE EVIL OF SATAN’S WORLD (5 min.)

  Victims of accidents....

  So, does this mean there are no accidents in the new order? I asked a question related to this as a child when I was preparing for baptism. I did not get a satisfactory answer then or ever since. But since it is in the outline, it must be answered.

  If we are going to live forever does that mean that we cannot die? If we accidently fall off a mountain while playing with a lion, will we die? Well, evidently the answer is that we will have no accidents. But that seems odd; attributing accidents to Satan's world seems a bit of a stretch.
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  How many did NOT get invited to the Memorial?

  by Ding in

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  i didn't.. i must really be wicked....

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  I did not get invited - when is this wonderful event?
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  What usually happens after the memorial?

  by Frazzled UBM in

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  2. beliefs

  do members of the congregation usually have a meal together after the memorial?

  does the fact that my wife has decided not to travel across town to her filipino congregation and is going to the local one instead and wants to be picked up when it finishes at 8 pm mean that she hasn't been invited to a meal with her filipino congregation and that she is being socially excluded by them?

  i think this is good news but i don't want her to get caught up with the local congregatin because i don't want them coming around to pressure her to attend when she is irregular.

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  Once or twice we were invited to an after memorial get to gether. But that was it.

  The good thing about the memorial is that it is a short meeting. And, since the other congregation needs to use the hall you had to get out early. So, we could go home a watch TV and forget the thing ever happened.
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  Most interesting chat with an annointed JW today

  by A.M. Number 1 in

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  we sat in a mc donalds talking for the last 2 hours.

  she made some very interesting claims like:.

  god magically takes thoughts from her head and puts them in the watchtower magazine.

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  I have met several anointed throughout the years. My father made it a point to introduce some old-timers to the family. These were friends of his father, who also claimed of the anointed. In each case I found the individuals to be sane, humble, and also assured in their place in god's arrangement. To Blondie's point these were all pre-1935 anointed.

  At the time it never occurred to me that this was a giant hoax. And in fact, this component of my life experience was the hardest to reconcile with what I learned about TTATT.