i know we cannot answer this, how many are physically in, mentally out (pimo), but i heard an amazing piece of news the other day.. an ex-p.o and ex-elder, a long time regular pioneer, and when i knew him a stalwart believer, went for a drink with another jw who has actually left, but is not df or anything.. in the course of conversation he came out with this bombshell "well, i am actually an atheist now, i just go along to keep my wife happy".. i also heard of a number of youngsters that i know personally who are simply living their life as they want, whilst making sure they don't get df'd for family and social reasons.. if as it seems the pimo's are a huge number, could there be a huge " awakening" where they all realize they are in a huge group, and they all say " eff it, lets call it a day on all the jw s**t ".
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wishful thinking, but.....just possible ?.
There are many in the congregation, including those in positions of leadership, that are closet apostates. I was an elder for several years and served after learning TTATT. I am convinced that at least one other fellow elder knew TTATT.
So, who are the others in the midst of brothers and sisters that are of a joint mind? We may never know...
charity is lacking from the house of god.
i remember reading once about some young pioneer sisters who needed emergency accommodation and where turn away from brooklyn because they weren’t special pioneers.
charity begins at home..
They are feeding the poor with their spiritual bounty. They seriously believe this.
my name is patricia warmack, a ny city ex-jw.
javin michael and i are hosting an ex-jw meet-up on saturday, march 31st, 6:00 - 9:00 pm.
address is 520 eighth avenue, room 16t, new york, ny.
Hi Patricia,
I live in NYC, a few years ago we had a very active meet-up group. Perhaps we have met before. I will put it on my calendar. I am not much for bowling, but I would like to stop by and say hi.
Roger
I remember my mother watching Billy Graham's ministries and taking notes. She was looking for gaps in his logic so that she could prove here faith as a JW. My mother was an old-school JW. She actually attempted to understand her beliefs and seek proof in the scriptures. I can't help but believe that, if she lived long enough, she would have been ultimately been able to connect the dots and see that the JW religion was a fraud.
In any event, I digress, please RIP, Billy Graham.
some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.
what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.
would you still believe in a creator?.
A majority of the earth's population believe in god or gods. They also have no interest in the bible as we know it.
I think we need to develop a global perspective on spiritual issues.It is presumptive to think that our beliefs are better than others.
there is a public talk given by tight pants tony on youtube titled "the real armageddon, why, when"his talk, as usual, doesn't make much sense.
he says armageddon is not a nuclear holocaust or an asteroid hitting the earth it's god's war against all the political nations of the earth.
he talks about a celestial phenomenon that will be phenomenal.
This sounds like the rantings of an old man. He must have seen the "Bunker" videos one too many times.
http://ed5015.tripod.com/jwbookscirculation.htm.
new light.
predicting world events--yet--containing not even 1 successfully completed prophecy.how is any of it "food"?
printing vs circulation is two totally different concepts. The Wt is known to do "channel stuffing."
if we put on our western cultural (you know, the ones that say jesus made the world) eye-glasses we will 'see' prostitution as something bad.. the 'christian' influenced view is that prostitution is a criminal racket run by gangsters, and the women (and sometimes men) have either been bullied by their pimps, or drugged until they become addicts and forced to work in brothels.**.
some of that is likely true (at times), but is it always 'truth'?.
australia's government owned abc media network, has an article that invites us to take off our western cultural eye-glasses and see the world as it really is.
Prostitution is considered the first profession. I love the works of John Steinbeck. When you read his books, he embeds stories about prostitution with no judgment. I hope that women have options other than selling their bodies. But I am not here to judge.
my turning point: serving on a child abuse judicial case.
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I was really struggling with my faith. I engaged with someone on a discussion board on AOL. He made a comment that explained the lie of the Wt related to the Trinity. I did a little research and realized he was right. I don't remember the discussion, but I do remember the effect. I can distinctly remember sitting on a chair in the family room and realizing that my whole life was built on lies. I was overwhelmed. It was not just the discussion comment, but his comment was clearly the tipping point.
what can one person do to save as many people as possible from this organisation?.
youtube videos?.
mail shots?.
Farmer Jim1 - "What’s the most effective way to wake the largest amount of JWs up?"
Live a successful life and see how many of your former friends are jealous of your success. I purposely keep my facebook pictures public in the hope that my former JW brothers and sisters can see that there is life after the Borg.
