Posts by NewYork44M

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CO Visits
by Frazzled UBM in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
more questions from an uninformed ubm: do co visits all happen at the same time each year?

is now co visit season?

what does this mean in terms of harrassing inactive memebers to come to meetings?
NewYork44M

DaF stated "CO visit is like a motivational speaker seminar"

I am not sure I ever experienced a CO visit as a motivational speaker seminar. I think it is more like an IRS audit or tooth canal. A tooth canal is probably overstating. But it is definitely an audit. He fills out a report about the congregation that is sent back to HQ. If that is not an audit, I am not sure what is.

In any event, the week wreaks of coercive power over the flock.

Which probably explains why your wife is so on edge around the CO visit week.
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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?
by AndDontCallMeShirley in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.

.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.

instead of preaching and saving people??.
NewYork44M

Wow - listen, obey, and be blessed. You have been assimulated.
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A Good Question To Ask JW to Get Them To Think
by sarahsmile in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
why did you get baptized?.

what do you think they would reply?.

because it is the truth!
NewYork44M

BTW, I was 15 when I was baptized into this realestate development corporation, I am now 57.

I remember thinking that the whole baptism process was pretty dumb. I really could never get to the point of saying a prayer that dedicated my life to "j."

In retrospect, this should have been a clue that this was not for me, but I was not that enlightened to the world.
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A Good Question To Ask JW to Get Them To Think
by sarahsmile in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
why did you get baptized?.

what do you think they would reply?.

because it is the truth!
NewYork44M

I am not convinced that it is my role to try to convice jws that their way is in error. If I prove that they are wrong, then what?

You may consider my perspective selfish; you are correct, it is. I don't want the responsibility of the rest of their live.

Proving that the jw religion is wrong not difficult, but it is only the first step in a very long, hard, and complex process. I am still trying to sort out my life, I don't want the responsibility of another's live.

I got my own stkinin problem - I really don't want someone else's problems.

So if they think they have the truth - god bless them...
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
NewYork44M

Wow Viv, what a great question and great responses. I am not sure what it means that you have reached page 28 on posts, but I'll bet you had no idea you question would hit such a nerve.

In any event, As far as I am concerned the spirit is what we take from previous generations and hopefully move forward.

As an example, I hope that what I do now is aligned with what my mother considered important. I also hope that she fulfilled, at least in part, the goals from prior generations. And the spirit of the family continues. I hope that my children and their children can finish what I will be unable to complete.

If that happens then my life created value.

I have spent a great deal of time, recently, visualizing the life of my grandparents. I am not sure how this fits in to your questions, but I suspect that it has a lot to do with the general theme of what I consider to be my spirit.
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1975 end prediction
by FL_Panthers in
1. jw
2. friends
does anyone have the article written by the wt saying that the end would come in 1975?.

how did people back then come to this year?

i need this information becuase i was told, this was never literally written by the wt in any publication.. thanks.
NewYork44M

In the early 1970s my father got a vanity auto license plate with the number "1975." We were pretty cool within the congregation. No one can tell me that 1975 was not a big deal. I distinctly remember when I realized that my year of high school graduation coincided with the end of the world.

Having the honor of graduating high school 1975 I can assure all that 1975 was a watershed year for the organization. Unfortunately this event screwed up my life. I have moved on but not without a lot of pain.
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What do you call a person who . . . ?
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what do you call a person who keeps promising to do something for you--but won't get up off their ass and do it?.

what do you call a person who needs money from you all the time and doesn't pay it back?.

what do you call a person who keeps you waiting and waiting and then, they don't show up?.
NewYork44M

yea, yea, all that is true - but he loves you.

And BTW, he can't handle money so he needs more.
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The Rants of a Dumbass Elder Still Serving
by TTATTelder in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
ok in the effort of full disclosure, i have had a couple of drinks and recently experienced a circuit assembly and a bad experience with a co.. i don't know where to effing begin.

first of all the circuit assembly was a joke.

half the assembly was about pioneering and selling your soul to be a no-pay salesman for the borg.
NewYork44M

It is wonderful how a little alcohol clarifies the issues. I have experienced that. In fact, more than a few meetings I attended were proceeded with one or two gin and tonics.
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Are we here for each other ? To support each other ? through crisis ?
by smiddy in
1. jw
2. friends
a poster who joined this site some five years ago , luo bou to , and offered his two cents worth , so to speak , about his experinces , and spiralling downfall to his marriage and faith and how it had left him , posted a number of posts ?

about his journey ?

and gained a great deal of satisfaction and solidarity from this site.. use the search engine for his previous posts .
NewYork44M

Lou, I am sorry to hear about your health issues. Thank you for your insights.
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Has Harry Peloyan passed away?
by VM44 in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
harry peloyan was the editor of the awake!

magazine for decades.. it has been claimed that he passed away in the year 2005.. but....i cannot find any record for him in the social security death index.. his wife, rose, is listed, but harry peloyan is not.. could harry peloyan still be alive?.

if he did die, why isn't his name listed in the social security death index?.
NewYork44M

I remember his death talked about on this site.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/91744/1/Harry-Peloyan-DEAD#.U4u7D7XD_IU