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MoneurMallard
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Looking through a glass onion
by MoneurMallard inhas anyone given any consideration to the fact that the torah strictly prohibited sorcery and those who spoke with the dead, and the acts of jesus during his ministry?.
deu 18:9 "when you come into the land that the lord your god is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
deu 18:10 there shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer .
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Happiness Is A Warm Gun
by MoneurMallard inever notice how many new testament verses show jesus in support of taking up a sword or going out and buying a sword?.
"prince of peace" yet, "do not think i came to bring peace, i came to bring, not peace, but a sword".... (i'm paraphrasing from mat 10:34).
luk_22:36 he said to them, "but now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack.
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Ever notice how many New Testament verses show Jesus in support of taking up a sword or going out and buying a sword?
"Prince of Peace" yet, "Do not think I came to bring peace, I came to bring, not peace, but a sword".... (I'm paraphrasing from Mat 10:34)
Luk_22:36 He said to them, "But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
......bang bang shoobie do wah.... When I hold you..... in my hand.... and I feel my finger on your.....?? -
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The Walrus Was Paul
by MoneurMallard inmany new testament biblical students today of both messianic jewish and christian backgrounds, are finding out that paul of tarsus simply doesn't fit with the remainder of new testament theology.
there is an article i've recently read, from the judaism vs. christianity dot com website that deals explicitly with this topic.... well, now i cannot seem to access it, but here is the link:.
http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm.
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The post is here to add confusion and chaos to your life, as opposed to order and "witness truth".
Think for yourself. Questoin authority.
You're supposed to do with this post whatever you like. Which is why I appreciate all the responses that ignore the underLYING biblical message and instead promote Beatle-mania.
"She's not a girl who misses much...... doo doo doo doo doo doo.....oh yeah....."
....on to my next post... anyone wanna guess the thread title?
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Almost de-converted a JW today...
by MoneurMallard inwell, after hours of chat online via yahoo messenger and emails back and forth via my youtube channel, i almost successfully de-converted a young woman in california from the borg.
or is it the "soc"?
which is the more correct asinine term these days?.
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Well I have lost my battle with the young woman I was trying to de-convert. (Not sure if de-convert is even a proper euphamism but what the hell)...
Apparently she has decided to cut me off in communication, labeled me an "apostate" despite the fact that I have never been a Jehovah's Clearinghouse Publisher or baptized into any Christian club for that matter. I did however join the Bear Claws when I was 8 years old if that counts for anything. Not sure how I can be an apostate to something I never subscribed to in the first place.
I am now the successful recipient of "Shunning" and I get to experience the full gratification of being "unwanted" by their organization. That's a punishment? Seems more like a free gift than a kick in the ass.
Weird organization you guys belonged to indeed. Quite asinine. Actually, the best term I could use to describe the elders and "brothers" I sat down with when I was letting them in my house was "politely rude"....
And I think one of them stole my Quill pen. I might need to file a police report against the New Smyrna Beach Florida Kingdom Hall, naming brother Charles Robinson as the suspect in the case. It was either him or the one "brother" with the big mustache. (Forgot his name), but he knows who he is, a major asshole. First class, major asshole...
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Looking through a glass onion
by MoneurMallard inhas anyone given any consideration to the fact that the torah strictly prohibited sorcery and those who spoke with the dead, and the acts of jesus during his ministry?.
deu 18:9 "when you come into the land that the lord your god is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
deu 18:10 there shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer .
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Ziddina, good points indeed, although Joshua and Moses weren't claiming to "keep the law perfectly" as the NT Jesus figure was supposed to have done... It becomes clear that Jesus broke the law in several areas, and yet the writers still maintain he didn't. (Hebrews 4:15).
I forgot to mention the most important, breaking the Sabbath which John 5 says he did.
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Looking through a glass onion
by MoneurMallard inhas anyone given any consideration to the fact that the torah strictly prohibited sorcery and those who spoke with the dead, and the acts of jesus during his ministry?.
deu 18:9 "when you come into the land that the lord your god is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
deu 18:10 there shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer .
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Has anyone given any consideration to the fact that the Torah strictly prohibited sorcery and those who spoke with the dead, and the acts of Jesus during his ministry?
Deu 18:9 "When you come into the land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer
Deu 18:11 or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead,
Deu 18:12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD. And because of these abominations the LORD your God is driving them out before you.
There are several aspects of the NT that suggest the entirety of Jesus' ministry broke many of the aforementioned commandments. The human sacrifice of himself for instance, (human blood on an altar is an abomination, of course you'll have a hard time convincing Jephthah of that), turning water into wine (what kind of Messianic goal is behind that anyway?), and talking with Elijah and Moses in the transfiguration. IT's funny how regular human drones are not allowed to do these things but Jesus is allowed to do it and still somehow be credited with "keeping the law in full"... -
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The Walrus Was Paul
by MoneurMallard inmany new testament biblical students today of both messianic jewish and christian backgrounds, are finding out that paul of tarsus simply doesn't fit with the remainder of new testament theology.
there is an article i've recently read, from the judaism vs. christianity dot com website that deals explicitly with this topic.... well, now i cannot seem to access it, but here is the link:.
http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm.
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MoneurMallard
Interesting responses... I knew the Beatles pun in the thread title would throw everyone towards more fruitful reponses.
My thoughts on Paul of Tarsus are thus: Yes, he wrote before any of the gospels were penned, however, he was starting his own new religion, based upon Gnostic views of the Jesus figure. I happen to appreciate a few things he says here and there still to this day, especially Galatians chapter 5, and 1 Corinthians 13, very well written poetry in my onion.
However, one cannot escape the fact that he admits that "all in Asia turned away from me" (2 Tim 1:15) and that Jesus in Revelation congratulated the Asian church in Ephesus for "rejecting those who call themselves apostles but are not, and are in fact liars". The Jesus of the gospels was surely a staunch supporter of the Tanakh and it's legal code, to the letter. He even stated that he didn't come to abolish the Torah but to uphold it (Mat 5:17-20). Most of the gospels and epistles of John seem to indicate a Jesus that was Torah-true, while Paul seems to point towards a Gnostic approach that abandons the "law of commandments in dogma" (Ephesians 2:14-17).
Either way, interesting, to say the least, from a historical perspective.
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What the Watchtower Magazines Are Really Saying!!
by MoneurMallard inok i've tried every suggestion at embeding youtube videos, i must have the shittiest browser on the face of the planet or something, or it could just be the filters on this crappy centurylink internet service.
and yes centurylink, you suck..... ok, enough of my malfeasance, now the link..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwlx3gnlgs.
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Oh well, so much for this laptop.... I'm about to throw it in the garbage where it belongs anyway.... time to play frisbee and sing yankee doodle dandee....
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What the Watchtower Magazines Are Really Saying!!
by MoneurMallard inok i've tried every suggestion at embeding youtube videos, i must have the shittiest browser on the face of the planet or something, or it could just be the filters on this crappy centurylink internet service.
and yes centurylink, you suck..... ok, enough of my malfeasance, now the link..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwlx3gnlgs.
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Ok I've tried every suggestion at embeding youtube videos, i must have the shittiest browser on the face of the planet or something, or it could just be the filters on this crappy Centurylink internet service. And yes Centurylink, you suck....
Ok, enough of my malfeasance, now the link....
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The Walrus Was Paul
by MoneurMallard inmany new testament biblical students today of both messianic jewish and christian backgrounds, are finding out that paul of tarsus simply doesn't fit with the remainder of new testament theology.
there is an article i've recently read, from the judaism vs. christianity dot com website that deals explicitly with this topic.... well, now i cannot seem to access it, but here is the link:.
http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm.
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MoneurMallard
Many New Testament biblical students today of both Messianic Jewish and Christian backgrounds, are finding out that Paul of Tarsus simply doesn't fit with the remainder of New Testament theology. There is an article I've recently read, from the Judaism vs. Christianity dot com website that deals explicitly with this topic...
Well, now I cannot seem to access it, but here is the link:
http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm
The article brings to attention the words of Paul himself in 2 Timothy 1:15 where he declares that "all in Asia have turned away from me"... in Revelation, Jesus congratulates those in Ephesus for rejecting "those who call themselves apostles but are not and have found them to be liars"... (Revelation 2:2,3)