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  Next steps

  by Issa in

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  2. experiences

  "you're parents are going to die", my bible teacher said that to my sister and i. a 12-year-old and 14-year-old, simply going to a theocratic school meeting, learning to be submissive and learn how to preach the 'watchtower way'.

  this incident was after meeting ended.

  we made our way to our frail bible teacher.

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  Dis-gust-ing!

  Thats what you get in Cults.

  Fear and guilt and obligation.
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  For Christians: What do you think about an Armagedon and the Afterlife

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't mean for anyone to get into argument over this, i just want to hear what people believe.i hope that no one will mock or argue with someone else about their beliefs, i know that i won't in this topic.. i still believe in a christian god, not what jws believe, but believe that there has to be something after this life.

  i am not sure about how armageddon would go, would it be like how evangelicals believe with a rapture or timing or anything, though i still believe in a form of armageddon.

  i do think that all good people will go to heaven but i don't believe in a hell.

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  If you were god - why would you make the earth be some kind of testing ground - to what amounts a blink of an eye compared to everlasting life in heaven? What purpose would that server?

  And if you were god, why could you not be articulate enough to let all your little peeps know exactly without confusing what the deal is?

  And is letting billions of people grow old suffer and die, many before they reach 1 year of age, the best you could come up with?

  And really is at some arbitrary point - just killing everyone who doesn't understand the Rules you NEVER explained - the best the all mighty one can do?
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  They lied about methuselah tree at convention

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.

  the brother/organization lied about how old they are.

  he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.

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  I think the point is - not the mistake about this 1 error...
  
  But the Pattern of reversing scientific and historical reality to fit what the GB want people to believe.
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  They lied about methuselah tree at convention

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.

  the brother/organization lied about how old they are.

  he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.

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  Well - having given many DC talks - I found that the outlines often distort facts.
  
  And when that doesnt happen, many brothers make things up, either because they are stupid, or the change the narrative to fit their point.
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  Meeting attendance for elders

  by dkztcequ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the minimum meeting attendace for someone, who is of good health, has not children doesn't work in a job that requires travel and lives about 3 miles from the kh?

  is 50% for clam and 75% for watchtower acceptable?.

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  75% - haaaaaaaaaa -yea right
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  JWs Ban TRUE RELIGION!

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, known for its aggressive worldwide proselytizing efforts, stunned many of its 12-million members by declaring war this week on a los angeles denim and designer jeans organization that goes by the name “true religion.”.

  “as members of jehovah's one true religious faith we have no business of associating with any organization that claims to be jehovah's true religion!” a letter from the gb states.

  it was dated july 20.. in its opening salvo, the seven-member gb directed believers to not “shop at, buy, nor even wear” true religion's products.

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  Should have been posted under Jokes and Humor :)
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  JWs Ban TRUE RELIGION!

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, known for its aggressive worldwide proselytizing efforts, stunned many of its 12-million members by declaring war this week on a los angeles denim and designer jeans organization that goes by the name “true religion.”.

  “as members of jehovah's one true religious faith we have no business of associating with any organization that claims to be jehovah's true religion!” a letter from the gb states.

  it was dated july 20.. in its opening salvo, the seven-member gb directed believers to not “shop at, buy, nor even wear” true religion's products.

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  This is a joke, right?
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  If they stopped the monthly report card ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  witnessing would cease, would it flow on to attendance numbers at meetings and then total decimation of the church..

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  1: If Service was Optional - 90% would stop within 6 months.

  2: If meetings were Optional - in 6 months they could group a circuit together in 1 hall for meetings.

  3: If DFing stopped - the religion would end within a few years.
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  Jehovah's people are not happy people

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.

  i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.

  i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.

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  Phoebe

  I agree with what you are saying too. I would extend it to the 90s, at least till 95 when the whole Generation thing started to really change.

  This last decade, so many JWs are depressed and unhappy an stressed that (as I used) the anxiety, depression card is being played by many Elders/MSs to get out of those roles. And it always works.

  The hall I left had more people on Meds, and more divorces in total than the average population.

  Besides ALL the failed timeline promises coming and going, a big factor that you alluded to is the CONSTANT message from the top that - YOU CAN NEVER DO ENOUGH - what ever you do is NEVER GOOD ENOUGH.
  
  You get 10hrs a month - no you should get 15 - you get 15 you should aux pio - you aux pio really you should regular - you regular you should sever where the need is great.... and on and on at every level.

  It is a religion that (unlike just about every other one) SUCKS YOUR SOUL DRY - instead of giving you a LIFT and a positive outlook - and joy. Guess that's why it is a cult.

  I knew old GB like Sydlik and Barber. They were good guys, loving, kind, not mean or over bearing.
  Sydlik would say - go do something fun, enjoy our life. He liked to watch Football and have a Scotch.

  Those kind do not exist anymore.
  And the vast majority of COs are just giant ass#oles now. We had a real string of COs that just Beat down the congregation.

  I remember being a CO Pio meeting (I was an elder) and after this one meeting I had to console many of the pioneer sisters because the CO made them all feel like S#it.

  This is what will eventually KILL the org and make it dwindle.
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  Jehovah's people are not happy people

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.

  i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.

  i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.

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  I dont know, I spent many happy years as a JW.

  I dont think it is fair to paint them all with that brush.

  Especial in the 70s and 80s and 90s, when it still seemed like the JW timeline was working and the end was in sight.

  But I get what you are saying.