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  Seven Trumpets of Revelation

  by Zico in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read on here that the society teaches that the seven trumpets of revelation are representative of seven conventions held in america in the 1920. is this actually true?

  is it old light?

  i asked some witnesses but they all gave me a look like i was weird and said it couldn't be right, and i can't check the watchtower library as i can't get it on my computer (apparently the society doesn't think mac users are worthy of the 'good news') i mean... it would be a bit...odd, wouldn't it?

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  Oh - We pretend we never said that:)
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  What do you think is the source of your consciousness? Can it be copied or transferred?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  this seems to be a question that even scientifically is still in the air.

  right now your consciousness, is it the physical part of the brain?

  the electrical signals in the brain?

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  You will like this Exerpt.
  “Equally favorite: Philosopher John Searle’s proof that no digital computer can have mental states (a mental state is, for example, your state of mind when I say, “Picture a red rose” and you do)—that minds can’t be built out of software. A digital computer can do only trivial arithmetic and logical instructions. You can do them, too; you can execute any instruction that a computer can execute. You can also imagine yourself executing lots and lots of trivial instructions. Then ask yourself, “Can I picture a new mind emerging on the basis of my doing lots and lots and lots of trivial instructions?” No. Or imagine yourself sorting a deck of cards—sorting is the kind of thing digital computers do. Now imagine sorting a bigger and bigger and bigger deck. Can you see consciousness emerging at some point, when you sort a large enough batch? Nope.

  
  “And the inevitable answer to the inevitable first objection: But neurons only do simple signal transmission—can you imagine consciousness emerging out of that? This is an irrelevant question. The fact that lots of neurons make a mind has no bearing on the question of whether lots of anything else make a mind. I can’t imagine being a neuron, but I can imagine executing machine instructions. No mind emerges, no matter how many of those instructions I carry out.”
  
  Excerpt From: John Brockman. “This Explains Everything.” iBooks.
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  JWs the kings of plagiarism

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt used to be rich for the quality of their public speakers, at the top of the ladder were the dos motivating the brothers on a weekly basis.

  some of them used very folksy experiences related to the brothers as motivational tools, when you left the convention those experiences were the talk of the town.

  i remember one very well qualified brother serving as do that was constantly using those sort of experiences as part of his arsenal, at one time he related one about a sister that new that she was going to die soon and while meeting with the family and brothers for final preparations she requested to be buried with a fork in her hand.

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  Having years of experience I have found that MOST of those are all made up, or sourced from other speeches given by NON JW sources. I have my self looked for good stories from websites that have them, or for sermons given by ministers, or the many books of quotes and anecdotes that are out there.

  What I have found is that the ones the sound the most amazing are usually completely BS.

  A CO gave one where the gist was - a daughter disobeyed her parents and went out at night without her parents knowing about it - they thought she was missing and the dad went out to find her - then he got into an accident - his car hit another one and guess what - his daughter was in it and she died.

  Boo Hoo - BullShit made up crap.
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  ten plagues of egypt explained.

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lve been researching the ten plagues of egypt.saw a tv doco few years back explaining scientifically how they all occurred.for anybody interested simply google ten plagues of egypt explained.

  sure is worth a look.cheers.

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  Well, here is the thing.

  The ONLY place in the world that mentions the 10 plagues is the bible, There is NO historical mention other than that. It's MADE UP!

  Just ask yourself this.

  Here you have the World Power devastated by plagues, has every 1st born male killed, has its ENTIRE army and King slaughtered at one time, and lost all its slaves. It is now completely defenseless, not for days or months, but it would be for decades most likely,

  And there is NO mention of it by any of the nations around it?
  Not one nation thought - wow - here is our chance to swoop in and take all the riches of of Egypt?????
  

  There is NO chance it ever happened.
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  What Happens To You When You Die?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  are our dead loved ones watching over us at all or are they really just gone now?

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  One thing the WT has right is what happens when you die.
  Game over.

  Sadly.
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  Bets on when the UN prophecy will be dropped?

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that i'm free to bet, i figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the united nations turning on worldwide religion.

  there is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped.

  not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the wt's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks.

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  Won't ever be dropped.

  It's one of those things that can keep going with no punitive response.

  The terms the WT uses are so broad and generic, and the fit in with the general purpose of the UN to help facilitate a peaceful world

  It is also one that they can KEEP SPINNING depending on the world situation.
  Like the King of the North - Russia, China, Islam, Coalition of Nations.

  Its all vague BS that works when people are Uneducated - and are Dissuaded into looking at FACTS, or History.

  
  
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  Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?

  by William Penwell in

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  2. experiences

  in your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?

  over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.

  i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.

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  Yup. I remember for years friends would joke that we attract some real oddballs.
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  "You don't go to church in a Kingdom Hall"

  by stephanie61092 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "you don't go to church in a kingdom hall" was stated during the public talk yesterday.

  the speaker then elaborated that "people who go to church, go to fulfill a spiritual obligation.

  coming to the kingdom hall is coming to learn.

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  Shoo Enoufff, Ah yesderay I dun learned dat jesus aint god, and dats I gots to give my moneys to the warch tarwer just like calib and sofia.
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  What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?

  by paul from cleveland in

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  2. friends

  i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.

  i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.

  i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.

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  Delusional is my best opinion.

  Because (including me for a long time) they are completely ok with accepting anything the WT says as fact without any evidence scriptural or otherwise to back it up. Not only that - they do not view as credible ANY outside information, whether from the Medical community, or Science, or Archaeology, or History, or other Religious scholars.

  Reality is aborted for the comforting thought that the GB are always right no matter what.
  All 1984.
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  JWLEAKS

  by ttdtt in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  does anyone have any information on jwleaks.org?

  it is still down.

  does anyone have any contact with them?.

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  The site is still not up - does anyone have any info? It is such a giant source of valuable info and downloads!